(06-07-2011 05:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-07-2011 05:25 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

Quote:The individual mandate is the best part of the bill. Seriously. If it fails, let's hope they throw the whole thing out. If they overturn the mandate and leave everything else in place, we are seriously, seriously screwed.

I agree with you that the bill as a whole has serious constitutional questions, and I'm hoping that the bill as a whole gets overturned. Just pointing out the hazards if it doesn't.

I remember reading there was no severability put into the bill. Meaning if want part is stuck down the whole bill goes.

I could be wrong but I never heard if that was removed.

I heard the same thing.

They blundered the severability part. I remember 2000+ pages passed the house with administrative procedures, down party lines.

Actually they blundered the whole ObabaCare Bill, but got the severability part right.

(06-07-2011 02:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I don't think the Constitution mean much these days

The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now.

(06-07-2011 02:48 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Damn, I wish I was illegal so I could reap the benefits.

I'm fairly sure you are a fair bit of the time...

(06-07-2011 07:55 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(06-07-2011 02:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I don't think the Constitution mean much these days

The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now.

As is is now...it is a rag. As it was intended....wonderful.

(06-07-2011 05:47 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(06-07-2011 05:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I'm just talking about the individual mandate. If it's a tax, it passes the requirements for the taxing power. But if it's a tax, then Obama lied about not raising taxes on anyone making less than $250,000. With all the other lies, I don't know why this one bothers him so much, but for some reason it does.
The individual mandate is the best part of the bill. Seriously. If it fails, let's hope they throw the whole thing out. If they overturn the mandate and leave everything else in place, we are seriously, seriously screwed.
I agree with you that the bill as a whole has serious constitutional questions, and I'm hoping that the bill as a whole gets overturned. Just pointing out the hazards if it doesn't.

All appropriations must be accounted for. This means "National Healthcare". I'd like to see how that passes Constitutional muster.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't think Obamacare should pass Constitutional muster. I just don't think that the individual mandate is the worst part of the bill, and would rather see it fail on other grounds. Because the sooner Obamacare fails, the better off the US will be.