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Anyone who has ever been sick should know it.. or had the common cold. You would think anyways.
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(06-07-2011 12:08 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Anyone who has ever been sick should know it.. or had the common cold. You would think anyways.

I don't know about that. How often do you go to the doctor for a common cold? And you wouldn't be able to get antibiotics without going to the doctor, unless you have some lying around from a previous illness. And most cold medicine does little or nothing anyway, at least for me.

I remember reading about it, wouldn't have known otherwise.
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(06-07-2011 10:54 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 10:29 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 10:03 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 08:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't believe the majority here knew that anti-biotics were ineffective against viruses. Some people scored 10 or 11. Rest of it was pretty simple though.

I did have to stop and think about that question. Then I remembered that this is the problem with taking anti-biotics every time you get sick. They don't work with Viruses and cause you not to respond to anti-biotics when you have a bacterial infection.

I was looking at the statistics, and that was one of the two questions women scored higher than men on.

Mrs. Smaug noted that that was because it was mom who generally took the kid to the pediatrician.

I couldn't argue with that.

Incidentally, she scored a perfect 12, too. I don't see what the big deal is. This was pretty basic, common knowledge stuff.

My wife is an RN...She aced this also. She had to stop and think about the Laser question. I laughed at her.03-lmfao

That one had the biggest discrepancy between the sexes, like 20%. I explained to the Mrs. that it was because guys know stuff about lasers. 03-lmfao

I didn't know exactly how lasers work, but I knew it wasn't by focusing sound waves.
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(06-07-2011 01:47 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  I didn't know exactly how lasers work, but I knew it wasn't by focusing sound waves.

"light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation"

Ya think? 05-stirthepot
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Thank you for copying and pasting from Wikipedia what the acronym stands for. I never could have done that on my own.
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(06-07-2011 02:06 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Thank you for copying and pasting from Wikipedia what the acronym stands for. I never could have done that on my own.

I didn't remember it in it's entirety, but I remember seeing it when I was a kid at a science fair, and I wasn't attacking you. Just being sarcastic. Got sand in your vag today?
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(06-07-2011 02:06 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Thank you for copying and pasting from Wikipedia what the acronym stands for. I never could have done that on my own.

Ok, let's see if I can do this faster than finding a good site in the interweb.

Atoms/molecules can absorb energy or emit energy. One form of energy is light, and when atoms absorb/emit light, it is in a quantized unit (discrete packet of energy) called a photon.

All atoms can absorb light, they can take in more energy. Not all atoms can emit light, they don't have extra energy, these are ground-state atoms. Atoms that can emit light are said to be in an excited state (ugh, this is gonna go downhill fast w/ you yahoos)

Now, when an atom absorbs light, obviously a photon has to be present...it gets absorbed.

When an atom emits light, it doesn't need another photon around, just the one it emits. If it does this, it's called spontaneous emission. And as the name indicates, this just happens; it's a probability event for each emission, which means a certain number emit per unit time.

But...an excited state atom can have another photon around, and in the reverse of absorption (anti-absorption) this photon can cause "stimulated emission". Then you have two photons, and these photons are "in phase" (meaning their wave properties match up) leading to high intensity light and they travel in the same direction, so the light is already pretty tightly focused.

Of course, when you get all (or actually more than half) the atoms to emit photons you run out of enough excited state atoms for stimulated emission, so your process stops. To keep it up, lasers take a lot of energy generating excited state atoms. Thus they're badly inefficient b/c so much energy is lost to spontaneous emission by the atoms.

So you have this process going on in a laser, and most designs have the light bouncing back and forth between two mirrors, through the container of excited state atoms, thus the laser intensity grows. But one of the mirrors usually allows some light out, so you have your laser beam.
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(06-07-2011 02:06 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Thank you for copying and pasting from Wikipedia what the acronym stands for. I never could have done that on my own.

Well, did you know that modem stands for modulate, demodulate? Or that there are 8 sides to a stop sign and a woman is never wrong? Just saving Wiki's bandwidth.
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(06-07-2011 02:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 02:06 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Thank you for copying and pasting from Wikipedia what the acronym stands for. I never could have done that on my own.

Well, did you know that modem stands for modulate, demodulate? Or that there are 8 sides to a stop sign and a woman is never wrong? Just saving Wiki's bandwidth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym_and_initialism
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(06-07-2011 08:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't believe the majority here knew that anti-biotics were ineffective against viruses. Some people scored 10 or 11. Rest of it was pretty simple though.

(06-07-2011 09:39 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  That was the hardest question in my opinion. No way the spin room aces that. Just my astute two cents.

And once again you show that you are far and away the most despicable, low life, motherfing punk on the board.

Just in case you don't get my drift,
F@CK YOU MACH!
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(06-07-2011 08:32 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 08:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't believe the majority here knew that anti-biotics were ineffective against viruses. Some people scored 10 or 11. Rest of it was pretty simple though.

I scored what I said I scored. I don't know why anyone would lie about such a simple test.


Agreed.

That Machiavelli suspects shenanigans is telling. Is his opinion of the people here so low that he things we'd collectively lie? To what end?

I scored what I scored, too. If anyone doubts that, it's their problem, not mine.
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It's Mach. He's been here for years. No on should be surprised by who/what he is.
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12/12 on the science test. Way too easy. 10/11 on the politics test. Got the one wrong about obesity. I thought it was 50% but apparently only 1/4 of the population is obese. Not really a political question though.
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(06-07-2011 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 08:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't believe the majority here knew that anti-biotics were ineffective against viruses. Some people scored 10 or 11. Rest of it was pretty simple though.

I did have to stop and think about that question. Then I remembered that this is the problem with taking anti-biotics every time you get sick. They don't work with Viruses and cause you not to respond to anti-biotics when you have a bacterial infection.

The scariest part is that everyone who has a doctor should be aware of this, not just those with kids. Unfortunately, doctors don't want to lose business, so they hand out antibiotics whenever someone asks, rather than arguing and/or informing patients. That said, there are legitimate reasons to give them out when someone has a viral infection, in cases where it avoids a secondary infection.

What I did learn a couple of days ago is that in some cases where there are bacterial infections, antibiotics can do significant harm - (bacterial?) meningitis and e-coli were the infections in question. Notwithstanding, they may be given anyways since people tend to die without them.
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(06-07-2011 09:22 PM)I45owl Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 08:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't believe the majority here knew that anti-biotics were ineffective against viruses. Some people scored 10 or 11. Rest of it was pretty simple though.

I did have to stop and think about that question. Then I remembered that this is the problem with taking anti-biotics every time you get sick. They don't work with Viruses and cause you not to respond to anti-biotics when you have a bacterial infection.

The scariest part is that everyone who has a doctor should be aware of this, not just those with kids. Unfortunately, doctors don't want to lose business, so they hand out antibiotics whenever someone asks, rather than arguing and/or informing patients. That said, there are legitimate reasons to give them out when someone has a viral infection, in cases where it avoids a secondary infection.

What I did learn a couple of days ago is that in some cases where there are bacterial infections, antibiotics can do significant harm - (bacterial?) meningitis and e-coli were the infections in question. Notwithstanding, they may be given anyways since people tend to die without them.

Yes...My wife is the Health Director in our county...She brought up that point last night to me. I was not aware of that either. That is why testing is important before giving out these drugs. Doctors have a room full of patients and waiting for test results causes a log jam of appointments. They often time use guess work based upon past experience in these cases. Sometimes them are simply wrong. The problem is that the viral infections simply run their course naturally and when the patient that takes these drugs unnecessarily get a bacterial infection...they may not respond to the next round of treatment.
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I always heard if the mucus is clear it's viral. If it's colored it's moneran. General rule of thumb. Even though secondary infections could take root in the viral mucus.


I want to apologize if anyone took offense for me calling out all the 12 for 12's.
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(06-07-2011 08:49 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  12/12 on the science test. Way too easy. 10/11 on the politics test. Got the one wrong about obesity. I thought it was 50% but apparently only 1/4 of the population is obese. Not really a political question though.

Yeah, I missed that too. I think it might be 50% is overweight, while only 25% is obese. Of course I've spent a lot of time in Columbus-area Krogers over the past couple of years, so I think it's understandable why my guess would be skewed.

And Khadaffi head of Libya, who saw that coming! Who leads Kahndaq these days?
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(06-08-2011 06:39 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I always heard if the mucus is clear it's viral. If it's colored it's moneran. General rule of thumb. Even though secondary infections could take root in the viral mucus.


I want to apologize if anyone took offense for me calling out all the 12 for 12's.

I've thought if it's clear it's allergies, not necessarily an infection. Color is something that it seems doctors use, but I'm not sure it's definitive about viral/bacterial.

(06-08-2011 07:20 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(06-07-2011 08:49 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  12/12 on the science test. Way too easy. 10/11 on the politics test. Got the one wrong about obesity. I thought it was 50% but apparently only 1/4 of the population is obese. Not really a political question though.

Yeah, I missed that too. I think it might be 50% is overweight, while only 25% is obese. Of course I've spent a lot of time in Columbus-area Krogers over the past couple of years, so I think it's understandable why my guess would be skewed.

And Khadaffi head of Libya, who saw that coming! Who leads Kahndaq these days?

I guessed on obesity and got it right ... 50% seems too high, though. I missed the budget question - I thought "medical care" was one option, not "medicare".

I also glanced at an article that mentioned that Khadaffi cannot resign because he doesn't hold any official position - he is the "revolutionary leader", not president or PM. How can a revolutionary leader or community activist ever leave that position?
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(06-08-2011 10:35 AM)I45owl Wrote:  How can a revolutionary leader or community activist ever leave that position?

Through a Hellfire missile?
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(06-07-2011 08:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don't believe the majority here knew that anti-biotics were ineffective against viruses. Some people scored 10 or 11. Rest of it was pretty simple though.

I think the media and doctors in general have been really trying to inform the public about overuse of anti-biotics, especially in cases where an issue is likely caused by a virus (Strep throat, common cold, etc.). I'm not shocked that most of the people here know that.
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