MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS WORKING TO UNITE ARAB WORLD AGAINST USA, BRITAIN & ISRAEL
SOCIALISTS EXPLAIN HOW THEY WORKED WITH MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS IN THE MID-EAST REVOLUTIONS TO UNITE ARAB WORLD AGAINST USA, BRITAIN & ISRAEL
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2011 10:45 AM by SumOfAllFears.)
RE: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS WORKING TO UNITE ARAB WORLD AGAINST USA, BRITAIN & ISRAEL
Nothing really new here. The socialists and hard left have often sympathised with radical Islamists for a long while now. I don't include your moderate Democrats and liberals into this, though the further left you go off on this scale, the greater the chance their tolerances and sympathies for Islamic hardliners increases. See 'Chavez, Hugo'.
There is a "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario going on here. The hard left and Islamists share much of the same critique of America in that they are both generally anti-capitalist, anti-Semitic, anti-personal freedom, and favor strict top-down government and social code. They are willing to set aside their vast difference in religious views (atheist vs. fundamental Muslim) in order to unite against the US "way of life." So the loose marriage between these two groups is not surprising.
RE: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS WORKING TO UNITE ARAB WORLD AGAINST USA, BRITAIN & ISRAEL
(06-01-2011 12:34 PM)RobertN Wrote: This thread is hilarious!
Instead of trolling the thread, give us some evidence to contradict what has been stated on this thread.
TOGC...I mean Robert, there is a reason why Egypt had banned the Muslim Brotherhood. There is a reason why we propped up some of these middle eastern dictators as well. We knew that they were the lesser of 2 evils. Guess what your boy Obama has empowered and emboldened...the greater of 2 evils. President Obama is either an absolute idiot, or he is a brilliant anti-semitic, anti-American Communist.
RE: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS WORKING TO UNITE ARAB WORLD AGAINST USA, BRITAIN & ISRAEL
(06-01-2011 01:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:
(06-01-2011 12:34 PM)RobertN Wrote: This thread is hilarious!
Instead of trolling the thread, give us some evidence to contradict what has been stated on this thread.
TOGC...I mean Robert, there is a reason why Egypt had banned the Muslim Brotherhood. There is a reason why we propped up some of these middle eastern dictators as well. We knew that they were the lesser of 2 evils. Guess what your boy Obama has empowered and emboldened...the greater of 2 evils. President Obama is either an absolute idiot, or he is a brilliant anti-semitic, anti-American Communist.
Quote:While the Communists disdained Christianity and Judaism as backward superstitions, they took a different approach to Islam. Lenin promised Muslims that their mosques would be protected under the revolution and emphasized an approach of cultural sensitivity that respected Muslim traditions. Female Communist activists donned veils or covered their hair to work with the locals. Most shockingly, while the Communists were dismantling the Orthodox Church and Jewish synagogues-- Sharia courts of Islamic law were being administered under a Soviet Commissariat of Justice.
One of the more notable effects of the alliance was the Communist attempt to find common ground by phrasing their doctrine in Islamic terms. The Communists campaigned against religion as superstition, but this was translated as Khurafat, a campaign to cleanse heretical forms of magic. The difference was substantial and fundamental. While Communists in the rest of the Soviet Union were outlawing religion, Muslim Communists were rooting out heresies under the authority of the revolution. The USSR had become the enforcer of Islam.
The translation of socialist ideas into the Islamic, created the illusion of common ground. Both sides heard what they want to hear. But the Communist and Muslim ideas of revolution were dramatically different. While Moscow was talking about women's equality, the Muslim Communists were filling their unwashed yurts with child wives. By the time Soviet leaders in Moscow realized what was going on, they had a civil war on their hands. The Communists won in the short term, but only at the cost of accepting Muslim practices such as polygamy. And the Muslims may have won the long war.
The awkward fusion of Islam and Communism did not last long, but it had an enduring impact on the left's view of Islam. It transformed Islam in the eyes of many Western socialists into a progressive movement.