(05-18-2011 11:34 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Hey guys! Whats up?? I heard from a very well respected source that ULM only has enough cash available to keep the doors open through summer school.

If they shut it down....everything shuts down, including athletics...

Be ready to find another team to play on short notice or your gonna play an 11 game schedule.

Z

Who is your source?

(05-18-2011 10:51 AM)CajunT Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 07:53 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Or, it has everything to do with following rules put in place by governing bodies. ULL flat out ignores the guidelines and policies laid out by the ULS. If I'm a student at ULL, why should I follow any of the University rules after the example they have set for their students.

In the end, ULL people think they are above everyone else and the constant whining from the fan base and their need to put down ULM is really pathetic.

Your ignorance of the state law and guidelines are astounding! The use of Louisiana to brand athletics is well within the bounderies of the law. So suck it Hoax fan!

Sorry Mr. T, but you are wrong, this can't be more clear:
The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

(05-18-2011 01:16 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 10:51 AM)CajunT Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 07:53 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Or, it has everything to do with following rules put in place by governing bodies. ULL flat out ignores the guidelines and policies laid out by the ULS. If I'm a student at ULL, why should I follow any of the University rules after the example they have set for their students.

In the end, ULL people think they are above everyone else and the constant whining from the fan base and their need to put down ULM is really pathetic.

Your ignorance of the state law and guidelines are astounding! The use of Louisiana to brand athletics is well within the bounderies of the law. So suck it Hoax fan!

Sorry Mr. T, but you are wrong, this can't be more clear:
The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

Sue us, whiner. If its that big a deal, sue us, but stop your pettiness and your crybaby tactics. We have found out who the biggest p**sies are in the Sunbelt... Congratulations you are #1!!!

Z

(05-18-2011 01:21 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 01:16 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 10:51 AM)CajunT Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 07:53 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Or, it has everything to do with following rules put in place by governing bodies. ULL flat out ignores the guidelines and policies laid out by the ULS. If I'm a student at ULL, why should I follow any of the University rules after the example they have set for their students.

In the end, ULL people think they are above everyone else and the constant whining from the fan base and their need to put down ULM is really pathetic.

Your ignorance of the state law and guidelines are astounding! The use of Louisiana to brand athletics is well within the bounderies of the law. So suck it Hoax fan!

Sorry Mr. T, but you are wrong, this can't be more clear:
The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

Sue us, whiner. If its that big a deal, sue us, but stop your pettiness and your crybaby tactics. We have found out who the biggest p**sies are in the Sunbelt... Congratulations you are #1!!!

Z

Ahh, touched a nerve?

(05-18-2011 01:16 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Sorry Mr. T, but you are wrong, this can't be more clear:
The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

Isnt this sort of black and white then in regards to this name debate?

People, PEOPLE!!!

I have a solution to the ULM vs ULL name controversy... NOBODY says they can't BOTH refer to themselves as "Louisiana", do they? The two major Alaska schools (Alaska-Anchorage and Alaska-Fairbanks) both call themselves "Alaska" and while it may look a little silly when they play each other (see photo), at least the "name" thing seems to be settled



There... that settles it now, doesn't it? Glad ta' hep!

(05-18-2011 02:19 PM)airtroop Wrote:  People, PEOPLE!!!

I have a solution to the ULM vs ULL name controversy... NOBODY says they can't BOTH refer to themselves as "Louisiana", do they? The two major Alaska schools (Alaska-Anchorage and Alaska-Fairbanks) both call themselves "Alaska" and while it may look a little silly when they play each other (see photo), at least the "name" thing seems to be settled

There... that settles it now, doesn't it? Glad ta' hep!

Except that ULM isn't calling themselves Louisiana.

AND

ULM has done everything in their power to try to keep others from calling us Louisiana.

Question: Just curious, is there any other FBS school or schools with a name issue ?

(05-18-2011 02:02 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Isnt this sort of black and white then in regards to this name debate?

Except that it deals with the use of "University of" it's silent on the use of Louisiana alone.

We're trying to brand as simply "Louisiana".

(05-18-2011 02:25 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  Except that it deals with the use of "University of" it's silent on the use of Louisiana alone.

We're trying to brand as simply "Louisiana".

Ok, I see that loophole.

You guys need to hook up with Popeyes chicken then, since I hear them use "Louisiana" a lot in there advertising.

(05-18-2011 02:25 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 02:02 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Isnt this sort of black and white then in regards to this name debate?

Except that it deals with the use of "University of" it's silent on the use of Louisiana alone.

We're trying to brand as simply "Louisiana".

But you're not simply trying to brand just Louisiana. You guys want to be UL and the University of Louisiana

(05-18-2011 02:54 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 02:25 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 02:02 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Isnt this sort of black and white then in regards to this name debate?

Except that it deals with the use of "University of" it's silent on the use of Louisiana alone.

We're trying to brand as simply "Louisiana".

But you're not simply trying to brand just Louisiana. You guys want to be UL and the University of Louisiana

So then you'd be ok if we stick with Louisiana and ask that ESPN and others use the identifier (LA)?

I just want to know where you draw the line.

That's within the guidelines

Lost in all the name stuff...is the fact the attendance for the tournament
was over 10,000. Better than some past baseball tournament numbers.
And 1,550 for the championship game.
Lost in all the name stuff...is the fact the attendance for the tournament
was over 10,000. Better than some past baseball tournament numbers.
And 1,550 for the championship game.
Lost in all the name stuff...is the fact the attendance for the tournament
was over 10,000. Better than some past baseball tournament numbers.
And 1,550 for the championship game.
Lost in all the name stuff...is the fact the attendance for the tournament
was over 10,000. Better than some past baseball tournament numbers.
And 1,550 for the championship game.

ALL THIS NAME BS OVERSHADOWS SOMETHING CAJUN AND SUNBELT FANS SHOULD BE PROUD OF. ALL THE TEAMS AT TOURNAMENT REPRESENTED THEIR SCHOOLS WELL !!!!

(05-18-2011 01:24 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 01:21 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 01:16 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 10:51 AM)CajunT Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 07:53 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Or, it has everything to do with following rules put in place by governing bodies. ULL flat out ignores the guidelines and policies laid out by the ULS. If I'm a student at ULL, why should I follow any of the University rules after the example they have set for their students.

In the end, ULL people think they are above everyone else and the constant whining from the fan base and their need to put down ULM is really pathetic.

Your ignorance of the state law and guidelines are astounding! The use of Louisiana to brand athletics is well within the bounderies of the law. So suck it Hoax fan!

Sorry Mr. T, but you are wrong, this can't be more clear:
The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

Sue us, whiner. If its that big a deal, sue us, but stop your pettiness and your crybaby tactics. We have found out who the biggest p**sies are in the Sunbelt... Congratulations you are #1!!!

Z

Ahh, touched a nerve?

If the nerve I touched is the one connected to your vajayjay....then, yes....i might have just touched a nerve. Your irrelevance in this league is breathtaking!!

Z

(05-18-2011 04:30 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 01:24 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 01:21 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 01:16 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-18-2011 10:51 AM)CajunT Wrote:  Your ignorance of the state law and guidelines are astounding! The use of Louisiana to brand athletics is well within the bounderies of the law. So suck it Hoax fan!

Sorry Mr. T, but you are wrong, this can't be more clear:
The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

Sue us, whiner. If its that big a deal, sue us, but stop your pettiness and your crybaby tactics. We have found out who the biggest p**sies are in the Sunbelt... Congratulations you are #1!!!

Z

Ahh, touched a nerve?

If the nerve I touched is the one connected to your vajayjay....then, yes....i might have just touched a nerve. Your irrelevance in this league is breathtaking!!

Z

You keep saying that, but you keep talking about ULM all the time...

(05-18-2011 12:50 PM)CajunT Wrote:  Survival mode or act of desperation, in either case UL’s vote was facilitated by Dr. Authement’s lack of vision for athletics and incompetence. Had he allowed an external athletic fund to exist after UL’s exit from the Big West and not cut funding to athletics or stop building facilities, other options might have been available. Instead, we joined the SBC that did not play football and led by one of his former disgruntled employees. In a last act of desperation, he cut a deal with the wicked little sister in Monroe and thought he could cultivate some good will within the UL-System by supporting ULM’s full athletic membership to the SBC against the wishes of many of his own programs supporters. So yes, from a UL fans point of view Dr. Authement’s worst crime was voting for ULM’s full membership in exchange for their support of the name change.

For it to have been "his fault" there had to have been two "No" and seven "YES" votes making Authement the determining eigth "Yes".

I have never even heard the suggestion that there were not 10 "Yes" votes. I know there was a distinct lack of enthusiasim for ULM as a full member but a strong determination to not be placed in the position the WAC currently occupies. All along all I heard was that UALR, UNO, and USA were determined to insure the survival of the league as a football home for the other members because they believed it to be in their best interest.

You did not join the Sun Belt in the wake of the Big West kick-out. Membership in the Sun Belt came as part of the merger of the Sun Belt and American South at the conclusion of the 90-91 academic year. The Big West experiment in football only was 93-95.

As I've discussed elsewhere, what has happened is simply the outcome one could expect when the deal was made to transition names with ULM rather than hold out to get what was wanted. To that degree I agree that it was mistake, but ULM's membership football only and later for all sports had nothing to do with Louisiana politics instead was simply a function of the survival needs of the Sun Belt membership as a whole.

...and we're glad to have both of you...

(05-18-2011 04:54 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  ...and we're glad to have both of you...

Awwww, 'preciate you too. Fortunately you'll more than likely only have 1 of us in the future. It'll make for a more competitive league. have a great evening!!

Z

(05-18-2011 02:23 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Question: Just curious, is there any other FBS school or schools with a name issue ?

Dont know about strictly FBS but I know that UNC-Charlotte wears basketball jerseys and brands themselves as Charlotte. UT-Chattanooga is Chattanooga. So there is definitely a precedent for branding yourself by a name other than your legal entity name.