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RE: A New Direction?
(04-30-2011 01:23 PM)troyw Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:21 PM)Troy87 Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:11 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:08 PM)troyw Wrote:  ULL...king of the "my poop don't stink" arguments. 01-wingedeagle

And yet we have the university of Pheonix @Troy talking smack about academics.03-nutkick03-lmfao

Your athletes and Troy's athletes are measured on the same scale set forth by the NCAA. Admission requirements for the general population are different from those for student athletes, and every athletic department uses the same scale for determining eligibility for incoming freshmen.

Now your school may prohibit the athletic department from admitting an athlete who doesn't meet the admission requirements of the general population, but I'm unaware of any that actually do that outside of the maybe the Ivy League and a few other select private institutions.

PS: Just looked at the admission requirements for incoming freshmen at UL, and it appears the ACT requirement is currently the same as for Troy, however, this Fall, the requirement for Troy will be more stringent. The minimum ACT score goes up to 20.

So 03-nutkick03-lmfao back at ya!

As per U.S.News UL is a Tier II and Troy is a Regional University on par with ULM. That is nothing to be proud of son.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...yette-2031

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...rsity-1047

ULL has a higher acceptance rate and a lower graduation rate than Troy....congrats!

Lower graduation rate in four years.
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RE: A New Direction?
(04-30-2011 01:37 PM)Troy87 Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:52 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:21 PM)Troy87 Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:11 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(04-30-2011 12:08 PM)troyw Wrote:  ULL...king of the "my poop don't stink" arguments. 01-wingedeagle

And yet we have the university of Pheonix @Troy talking smack about academics.03-nutkick03-lmfao

Your athletes and Troy's athletes are measured on the same scale set forth by the NCAA. Admission requirements for the general population are different from those for student athletes, and every athletic department uses the same scale for determining eligibility for incoming freshmen.

Now your school may prohibit the athletic department from admitting an athlete who doesn't meet the admission requirements of the general population, but I'm unaware of any that actually do that outside of the maybe the Ivy League and a few other select private institutions.

PS: Just looked at the admission requirements for incoming freshmen at UL, and it appears the ACT requirement is currently the same as for Troy, however, this Fall, the requirement for Troy will be more stringent. The minimum ACT score goes up to 20.

So 03-nutkick03-lmfao back at ya!

As per U.S.News UL is a Tier II and Troy is a Regional University on par with ULM. That is nothing to be proud of son.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...yette-2031

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...rsity-1047

UL Admission Requirements in Fall 2012

In-State Freshman Guaranteed Admission Criteria – Effective Fall 2012

In-state students applying for freshman admission must meet ONE of the following requirements for admission:
Have a core grade point average of 2.5 on a 4.0 scale OR
Have a ACT composite score of 23 or 1050 SAT Critical Reading+Math (CR+M)

By the way, this doesn't change your current admissions requirements for over a year, which are still the same as Troy's, and all the others mentioned before. So this fall, Troy's admission requirements will be higher than UL, then next fall, UL will have higher admission requirements, so it becomes an arms race of sorts.

But I digress.......this isn't about the general population admission requirements, is it?

This is about eligibility of incoming freshmen athletes, which is the same for everyone.

GPA-------------------SAT-------ACT Index

3.55 and above--------400-----------37
3.5-------------------420-----------39
3.25------------------520-----------46
3.0-------------------620-----------52
2.75------------------720-----------59
2.5-------------------820-----------68
2.25------------------920-----------77
2.0------------------1010-----------86

To get the ACT Index score, try this website

http://highered.colorado.gov/Academics/A...ndexScore/

Insert the GPA and the score on the ACT, and the result will be the ACT Index score.

This is used by every athletic department in the country to determine eligibility.

All programs use waivers to get athletes in. As you stated, this is the same scale we all use.

As I've stated, UL is going to selective admissions and is currently a Tier II university, with an endowment of 120 mil. Troy is a regional university, neither are Harvard, but we are certainly not on par with ULM. As for graduation rates, let's look at those rates in Master programs and Doctrates of Science and Math.
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RE: A New Direction?
(04-29-2011 04:40 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  "We signed some amazing talent, some guys we feel fit our program," Hudspeth said. "We recently signed the number one running back in the nation, Qyen Griffin. He's a great one. The reason we got him is because nobody thought he was going to be eligible. Oklahoma, Ole Miss and Alabama backed off because they felt he wasn't going to make it. We stuck with him and found a way and he just popped a 25 on his ACT."

http://www.dailyworld.com/article/201104.../104280325


You are welcome for my interest Z


The kid still has to perform through his college career. A 25 ACT does not get you a college degree or the grades necessary to dodge APR sanctions.
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RE: A New Direction?
It doesn't matter to me what the kid scored.....but I can gather one sure thing from this. Zee didn't take the test for him.

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(04-30-2011 04:18 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  It doesn't matter to me what the kid scored.....but I can gather one sure thing from this. Zee didn't take the test for him.

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Because that would be against NCAA regulations. You are very perceptive!

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(04-30-2011 04:56 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Because that would be against NCAA regulations. You are very perceptive!

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Yeah....that's what I meant.... 03-lmfao
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RE: A New Direction?
I'm surprised Troy didn't jump on this kid, but I guess he wasn't up to their standards, he only failed his grade once, only has one felony on his record(need at least 2 to qualify @ Troy) and the kicker had to be that he scored way too high on the ACT, he needed to get under a 19 to qualify.

Well good luck, U of L AT LAFAYETTE. If I see this kid in uniform I will drop the Lafayette from my posts. As far as I'm concerned, ULL has overtaken ULM as my least favorite sun belt school because of the way your posters attempt to hammer anyone in such a childish manner who uses Lafayette in their posts. Until then, I remain doubtful, but also hopeful at the same time. If this kid really is as good as they say it can only do good for the belt's reputation for this kid to succeed in the classroom and to have hands down the best RB in college ball.
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(05-01-2011 05:58 AM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  I'm surprised Troy didn't jump on this kid, but I guess he wasn't up to their standards, he only failed his grade once, only has one felony on his record(need at least 2 to qualify @ Troy) and the kicker had to be that he scored way too high on the ACT, he needed to get under a 19 to qualify.

Well good luck, U of L AT LAFAYETTE. If I see this kid in uniform I will drop the Lafayette from my posts. 03-hissyfit As far as I'm concerned, ULL has overtaken ULM as my least favorite sun belt school because of the way your posters attempt to hammer anyone in such a childish manner who uses Lafayette in their posts. 03-hissyfit Until then, I remain doubtful, but also hopeful at the same time. If this kid really is as good as they say it can only do good for the belt's reputation for this kid to succeed in the classroom and to have hands down the best RB in college ball.

WOW! I think this wins as the greatest post in this thread!! Make sure you make me your least favorite poster from your least favorite school.
LOL!!!!!!

Z

ps THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA!
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RE: A New Direction?
(05-01-2011 08:15 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(05-01-2011 05:58 AM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  I'm surprised Troy didn't jump on this kid, but I guess he wasn't up to their standards, he only failed his grade once, only has one felony on his record(need at least 2 to qualify @ Troy) and the kicker had to be that he scored way too high on the ACT, he needed to get under a 19 to qualify.

Well good luck, U of L AT LAFAYETTE. If I see this kid in uniform I will drop the Lafayette from my posts. 03-hissyfit As far as I'm concerned, ULL has overtaken ULM as my least favorite sun belt school because of the way your posters attempt to hammer anyone in such a childish manner who uses Lafayette in their posts. 03-hissyfit Until then, I remain doubtful, but also hopeful at the same time. If this kid really is as good as they say it can only do good for the belt's reputation for this kid to succeed in the classroom and to have hands down the best RB in college ball.

WOW! I think this wins as the greatest post in this thread!! Make sure you make me your least favorite poster from your least favorite school.
LOL!!!!!!

Z

ps THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA!

03-lmfao He must not read this forum much.
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RE: A New Direction?
We will see if he is still around after the first three semesters on campus. FSU has had quite a few they did not red shirt because they knew they would not make it past two semesters in school. If they redshirt the kid then it means they are committed to this kid academically which is a good thing.
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(05-01-2011 05:58 AM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  I'm surprised Troy didn't jump on this kid, but I guess he wasn't up to their standards, he only failed his grade once, only has one felony on his record(need at least 2 to qualify @ Troy) and the kicker had to be that he scored way too high on the ACT, he needed to get under a 19 to qualify.

Didn't the prisoners beat the guards in "The Longest Yard?" New stadium, new coach...don't let l'il ol' Troy worry ya! 04-cheers
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[b]LouisianaScout BJ Thompson



hold that thought...
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RE: A New Direction?
Smack talking on academics on a sports message board is lame as hell.

Let's not kid ourselves about the hypocrisy of today's D1 "student" athlete.


I root for stAte's athletes to do well in school, but so what?
I think it is great when student athletes excel in school or graduate early, but so what?
I'm proud that stAte's football gpa is perennially near the top of the conference, but so what?


College football and basketball are about winning. Everything else is noise.
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(07-14-2011 09:27 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Smack talking on academics on a sports message board is lame as hell.

Let's not kid ourselves about the hypocrisy of today's D1 "student" athlete.


I root for stAte's athletes to do well in school, but so what?
I think it is great when student athletes excel in school or graduate early, but so what?
I'm proud that stAte's football gpa is perennially near the top of the conference, but so what?


College football and basketball are about winning. Everything else is noise.

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I'd like to have the top academic school, as well as the top athletic programs....but if I had to choose....we'd be going to a bowl and the tourney every year.
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Forgive my ignorance, but has all the hub bub about Troy and waivers and what not all been simply related to admission requirements? When you talk about waivers, are you saying that Troy excepts kids below their institutional guidelines? And that that is somehow different than every other school? Not that it's about what happens after the kid is already enrolled and taking classes?

I know you can get in to South (a Tier 1 school) with a very marginal ACT, but if so, you enroll already on probation. Then it's up to you to make the grades and continue on, or not and flunk out. To me, there's nothing wrong with giving a kid a chance, athlete or not, and letting them attempt to prove themselves.
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http://www.sunbeltsports.org/ViewArticle...=205180334

Quote:Seven institutions had 100% of their programs score above the 925 mark, those institutions are: UALR, Denver, Louisiana-Lafayette, Middle Tennessee, North Texas, Troy and Western Kentucky. Arkansas State, Florida Atlantic and FIU all had 94% of their programs score above the 925 mark.

“As a whole, Sun Belt Conference member institutions are hitting the mark for APR," Giambrone added. "Our institutions are committed to monitoring and maintaining their APR scores.”
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