On Twitter last night.
“@LATechPWalsh: Rutgers is fuming over getting sent 1,324 miles to Shreveport. LA Tech averaged 1,768 miles one-way for conf games, not incl Hawaii trip”

They could always take their ball and go home

(03-15-2011 09:33 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  They could always take their ball and go home

It's what Tech did in 2001.

(03-15-2011 09:34 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 09:33 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  They could always take their ball and go home

It's what Tech did in 2001.

Nothing says spoiled child like La Tech and UCF?

(03-15-2011 10:11 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 09:34 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 09:33 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  They could always take their ball and go home

It's what Tech did in 2001.

Nothing says spoiled child like La Tech and UCF?

I just think it's a highly misguided and somewhat arrogant tweet from the SID. Who's responsible for La Tech's far flung travel? La Tech has no one to blame but themselves when it comes to their travel, Rutgers on the other hand had no control in this. I can understand their position, being miffed at playing as a better seed, a long way from home on the home court of their first round opponent. The same thing happened to us two years ago, as an eight seed, traveling to East Lansing and playing on nine seed Michigan State's home court.

I am sure there are several teams that will more than gladly change places with them. A lot of teams looking at the brackets and thinking "what if".

They just got invited to the biggest event of thier college careers and they are upset because they are not sitting at the VIP table?

(03-15-2011 08:53 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  On Twitter last night.
“@LATechPWalsh: Rutgers is fuming over getting sent 1,324 miles to Shreveport. LA Tech averaged 1,768 miles one-way for conf games, not incl Hawaii trip”

Those are crazy travel numbers. How can you turn a profit with those numbers?

(03-15-2011 10:57 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 08:53 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  On Twitter last night.
“@LATechPWalsh: Rutgers is fuming over getting sent 1,324 miles to Shreveport. LA Tech averaged 1,768 miles one-way for conf games, not incl Hawaii trip”

Those are crazy travel numbers. How can you turn a profit with those numbers?

they probably don't.

(03-15-2011 10:52 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  I am sure there are several teams that will more than gladly change places with them. A lot of teams looking at the brackets and thinking "what if".

They just got invited to the biggest event of thier college careers and they are upset because they are not sitting at the VIP table?

Whatever. That's like telling the kid who got socks for Christmas that there are children in third world countries who would love to have those socks. Rutgers got hosed, the only defense I will give is with the difference in formatting in WBB where host teams get to play at home in the first two rounds(where as in MBB it's prohibited) it makes it much more difficult to avoid worse seeds hosting better seeds. I think the gripe is just as much about having to play at a lower seeded team's home court as it is about the travel and if La Tech were in their position they'd be upset too.

(03-15-2011 10:57 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 08:53 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  On Twitter last night.
“@LATechPWalsh: Rutgers is fuming over getting sent 1,324 miles to Shreveport. LA Tech averaged 1,768 miles one-way for conf games, not incl Hawaii trip”

Those are crazy travel numbers. How can you turn a profit with those numbers?

Profit? No one turns a real profit. It's about having a lose that you school can afford. I don't see how they do it, but it seems to work for them.

And I think the Tech SID does have a point about Rutgers whining. LOTS of schools would be thrilled to "have" to travel 1300 miles for a post season game.

(03-15-2011 10:45 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 10:11 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 09:34 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(03-15-2011 09:33 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  They could always take their ball and go home

It's what Tech did in 2001.

Nothing says spoiled child like La Tech and UCF?

I just think it's a highly misguided and somewhat arrogant tweet from the SID. Who's responsible for La Tech's far flung travel? La Tech has no one to blame but themselves when it comes to their travel, Rutgers on the other hand had no control in this. I can understand their position, being miffed at playing as a better seed, a long way from home on the home court of their first round opponent. The same thing happened to us two years ago, as an eight seed, traveling to East Lansing and playing on nine seed Michigan State's home court.

that is the nature of Womens basketball. It just happens to be working in our favor for a change. I can't tell you how many times Tech as high seeds were sent out west. Until the revenues come in nothing will change. I remember times when UCONN never had to leave the state of Connecticutt.

And isn't UALR a lower seed than MT, a team they beat and won sole possession of conference champions and tournament over. Seeding is only another way to reaarrange getting teams close to home to play. I am sure your seeding was raised to get MT near Murfreesboro and UALR's was lowered to get them in the Dallas region. They need butts in the seats to make this stuff work. Inevitably teams like Rutgers have to get screwed. Either they get their seeding lowered and have to play a better team close to home. Or keep a high seed and have to travel.Plus there are nine freaking teams in the big east in the tournament. They can't all stay in the East.

(03-15-2011 12:13 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  And isn't UALR a lower seed than MT, a team they beat and won sole possession of conference champions and tournament over. Seeding is only another way to reaarrange getting teams close to home to play. I am sure your seeding was raised to get MT near Murfreesboro and UALR's was lowered to get them in the Dallas region. They need butts in the seats to make this stuff work. Inevitably teams like Rutgers have to get screwed. Either they get their seeding lowered and have to play a better team close to home. Or keep a high seed and have to travel.Plus there are nine freaking teams in the big east in the tournament. They can't all stay in the East.

Im pretty sure the bolded above is one of the reasons that FAU vs Miami happened in the NIT. All NIT bracketologists had FAU at 8 and flying to the west coast. Then POOF, what do you know a bump in seed gives a much less travel issue and the change to increase attendance.

If its not to blatantly obvious, I think moving people up or down to lower costs is not a bad idea at all.

(03-15-2011 12:13 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  And isn't UALR a lower seed than MT, a team they beat and won sole possession of conference champions and tournament over. Seeding is only another way to reaarrange getting teams close to home to play. I am sure your seeding was raised to get MT near Murfreesboro and UALR's was lowered to get them in the Dallas region. They need butts in the seats to make this stuff work.

I fully understand how the process works, but this is the first time we've played a tournament game within 450 miles of Murfreesboro. I also understand that teams occasionally get completely hosed like Rutgers did this year and like we did two years ago, I even previously stated that that was the only defense I'd offer for the decision as I know it's a necessary evil.

We've all been begging for us at MT to take advantage of this system, there's no reason we shouldn't be hosting opening round games every three or four years, but we host the High School state tournament during that same time period, so as long as we're doing that, we'll never host opening round tournament games.

Now you make some fair points regarding seeding, but in the particular instance of us and UALR, while it may have been influenced by getting teams in the best geographic spot, it wasn't that tough a decision IMO, they didn't win sole possession of the regular season, we each won our divisions with identical records and the head to head tiebreak is only in place for purposes of the auto NIT bid in the event that the best regular season record team should fall in the tournament. Beyond that, we finished with identical overall records and our RPI was 37 and theirs was 46.

Plus if UALR had to come to Murfreesboro it would have probably been a different story. We are something like 52-1 in the SBC at home since Insell has been our HC. That one loss was to UALR, however.