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RE: Who Really Owns Your Property?
Or you could ask this guy!





The owner of "Noodles" better watch out... LOL
02-28-2011 02:20 PM
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RE: Who Really Owns Your Property?
The goverment can lay claim to any property it see's fit.... That is just the facts, It is not right
but they can clamp down and force you out with a check in your hand.....
02-28-2011 02:26 PM
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RE: Who Really Owns Your Property?
(02-27-2011 02:54 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-27-2011 01:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-26-2011 07:54 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2011 05:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If you can find this story on a reputable site, I might read it, but WND? Puhleeeze!

Specifically, What in this article is not reputable. Do you guys from WI even have enough sense to read before commenting?

WI? What are you talking about?

And much like Breitbart, WND has been caught in so many lies and for making **** up that I would not even trust it to give me the day of the week!

Excuse... MI. So specifically this article. I won't hold my breath.

Ask RWT for specifics and he'll tell you to do your own research!

He's not so much about finding facts as he is about offering criticism.
02-28-2011 02:50 PM
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RE: Who Really Owns Your Property?
(02-28-2011 02:50 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(02-27-2011 02:54 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-27-2011 01:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-26-2011 07:54 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2011 05:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If you can find this story on a reputable site, I might read it, but WND? Puhleeeze!

Specifically, What in this article is not reputable. Do you guys from WI even have enough sense to read before commenting?

WI? What are you talking about?

And much like Breitbart, WND has been caught in so many lies and for making **** up that I would not even trust it to give me the day of the week!

Excuse... MI. So specifically this article. I won't hold my breath.

Ask RWT for specifics and he'll tell you to do your own research!

He's not so much about finding facts as he is about offering criticism.

Apologies, just taking after my idol!
02-28-2011 10:45 PM
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(02-27-2011 09:49 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  And by the way ... let's get down to the core of this issue:

SO LONG AS YOU PAY PROPERTY TAX ... you are owning nothing and merely leasing from the government. Property Tax is an affront to and attack on property rights ... one of THE most basic rights there is.

I disagree. Gov't provides legit services and property tax is a logical way to assess consideration for those services.

However, I do fully support your right to secede from any government, and render any tax obligation void.

Keep in mind, it's tough for an individual to make it on his/her own. Trade embargoes make it difficult to get goods and services. Bandits/raiders/military forces can easily come and take your property from you. That may not be "right" but it's reality. Better to be part of a bigger government that offers legitimate protection for a reasonable tax assessment.
03-01-2011 09:05 AM
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RE: Who Really Owns Your Property?
(03-01-2011 09:05 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(02-27-2011 09:49 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  And by the way ... let's get down to the core of this issue:

SO LONG AS YOU PAY PROPERTY TAX ... you are owning nothing and merely leasing from the government. Property Tax is an affront to and attack on property rights ... one of THE most basic rights there is.

I disagree. Gov't provides legit services and property tax is a logical way to assess consideration for those services.

However, I do fully support your right to secede from any government, and render any tax obligation void.

Keep in mind, it's tough for an individual to make it on his/her own. Trade embargoes make it difficult to get goods and services. Bandits/raiders/military forces can easily come and take your property from you. That may not be "right" but it's reality. Better to be part of a bigger government that offers legitimate protection for a reasonable tax assessment.

Let me approach from a different angle: property tax abridges your free speech because it prevents you from protesting the government by withholding tax dollars. If we had a Fair Tax, and you were disgusted with the government, you could refuse to buy things, and thereby starve the beast. We had the ability to tax protest in the country all the way up until the Income Tax amendment in 1913. The same, year, by non-coincidence, that we introduced the Federal Reserve.
03-01-2011 09:13 AM
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(03-01-2011 09:13 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If we had a Fair Tax, and you were disgusted with the government, you could refuse to buy things, and thereby starve the beast.

That might work if you wanted to beat down a business. But when you do it to the government they'll just raise the tax on the people who do buy things.
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RE: Who Really Owns Your Property?
The power to tax is the power to destroy....

Anyway, as long as the government can force you to sell your land (and require you to get your own appraisal since their offer will be a lowball one) any ownership of land seems to be, well, partial, at best.
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