(02-22-2011 09:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Found out today that the pirates are children. Why children, you make the call?
Certify them as adults. If they are old enough to use automatic weapons, then they are old enough to die by lethal injection.
Just like the kids in Rwanda, Uganda, and well... Bosnia/Kosovo, etc. Right? Slaughter them all!!!! (/sarcasm)
OK, what's your plan, therapy?
Well, let's see, if your 13 year old goes and kills someone, are YOU gonna be ok with leading them to the hangman's noose?
I know I wouldn't be! But my kid wouldn't be trying to support a family of 20 in Somalia either, so I guess that was irrelevant....
But, I think that killing these kids after a trial, makes us just as bad as the adults that recruit them, and allow them into these organizations.... so, yea, perhaps therapy and education, and letting them see kindness for once in their horrible lives would be a good thing... or at the VERY least the CHRISTIAN thing to do.... or civilized... or we could just line them up on the destroyer's deck and shoot them, one bullet to the back of the head, and then kick their bodies overboard....
(This post was last modified: 02-22-2011 10:21 PM by CountryRedHawk.)
(02-22-2011 09:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Found out today that the pirates are children. Why children, you make the call?
Certify them as adults. If they are old enough to use automatic weapons, then they are old enough to die by lethal injection.
Just like the kids in Rwanda, Uganda, and well... Bosnia/Kosovo, etc. Right? Slaughter them all!!!! (/sarcasm)
OK, what's your plan, therapy?
Well, let's see, if your 13 year old goes and kills someone, are YOU gonna be ok with leading them to the hangman's noose?
I know I wouldn't be! But my kid wouldn't be trying to support a family of 20 in Somalia either, so I guess that was irrelevant....
But, I think that killing these kids after a trial, makes us just as bad as the adults that recruit them, and allow them into these organizations.... so, yea, perhaps therapy and education, and letting them see kindness for once in their horrible lives would be a good thing... or at the VERY least the CHRISTIAN thing to do.... or civilized... or we could just line them up on the destroyer's deck and shoot them, one bullet to the back of the head, and then kick their bodies overboard....
Oh, I'm sure they'll be shown lots of kindness and love in jail....maybe even get married and live out the honeymoon a few million times. Or maybe they could go to Berkley
(02-22-2011 09:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Found out today that the pirates are children. Why children, you make the call?
Certify them as adults. If they are old enough to use automatic weapons, then they are old enough to die by lethal injection.
Just like the kids in Rwanda, Uganda, and well... Bosnia/Kosovo, etc. Right? Slaughter them all!!!! (/sarcasm)
OK, what's your plan, therapy?
Well, let's see, if your 13 year old goes and kills someone, are YOU gonna be ok with leading them to the hangman's noose?
I know I wouldn't be! But my kid wouldn't be trying to support a family of 20 in Somalia either, so I guess that was irrelevant....
But, I think that killing these kids after a trial, makes us just as bad as the adults that recruit them, and allow them into these organizations.... so, yea, perhaps therapy and education, and letting them see kindness for once in their horrible lives would be a good thing... or at the VERY least the CHRISTIAN thing to do.... or civilized... or we could just line them up on the destroyer's deck and shoot them, one bullet to the back of the head, and then kick their bodies overboard....
At least these "children" have a chance at Trial. That US Navy Destroyer had every right to blow them out of the water after the "children" fired a RPG at it.
(02-22-2011 09:23 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: I've always thought that maybe the US Navy should commission or create a few US-flagged "cargo" looking ships as bait, and go crusing around the horn of Africa. Once pirates try to seize what they think is a cargo ship, the navy wipes them out. From that point on, whenever the pirates see a US-flagged merchant ship, they'll have to start wondering, "hmm... do I consider myself lucky, or this is a set up?" Plant some seeds of doubt.
Probably too simplistic in the whole scheme of things, but it can't hurt.
This is what we did in WWII to get U-Boats. If you recall, U-Boats had very few torpedoes, but lots of shells for the deck gun. So they preferred to surface and sink the vessel with their deck gun. So the US Navy created cargo ships where the "containers" flipped down to reveal torpedo shoots, depth charge launchers, several ma deuces, and small shell guns. I assure you a few ma deuces and a computer operated 30mm chain fed cannon would wipe out an entire fleet of Somali boats quite quickly.
This is the proper use of DEFENSE military spending. When others want to pose a threat ... you set a trap, bait it, and absolutely destroy them without mercy.
(02-22-2011 10:21 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote: perhaps therapy and education, and letting them see kindness for once in their horrible lives would be a good thing...
"Maybe does people are so poor da've never touched anything in dare lives. Let dim touch does dings for once."
Celine Dion tearfully talking about the stolen tv's and jeans in the hands of the thieving looters in N.O. after Katrina.
(This post was last modified: 02-22-2011 11:49 PM by Paul M.)
(02-22-2011 09:23 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: I've always thought that maybe the US Navy should commission or create a few US-flagged "cargo" looking ships as bait, and go crusing around the horn of Africa. Once pirates try to seize what they think is a cargo ship, the navy wipes them out. From that point on, whenever the pirates see a US-flagged merchant ship, they'll have to start wondering, "hmm... do I consider myself lucky, or this is a set up?" Plant some seeds of doubt.
Probably too simplistic in the whole scheme of things, but it can't hurt.
This is what we did in WWII to get U-Boats. If you recall, U-Boats had very few torpedoes, but lots of shells for the deck gun. So they preferred to surface and sink the vessel with their deck gun. So the US Navy created cargo ships where the "containers" flipped down to reveal torpedo shoots, depth charge launchers, several ma deuces, and small shell guns. I assure you a few ma deuces and a computer operated 30mm chain fed cannon would wipe out an entire fleet of Somali boats quite quickly.
This is the proper use of DEFENSE military spending. When others want to pose a threat ... you set a trap, bait it, and absolutely destroy them without mercy.
We've lost the will to do that. Losing everything won't be far behind.
(02-22-2011 09:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Found out today that the pirates are children. Why children, you make the call?
This is why deterrence won't work. The guys that we need to take out care more about the lives of the victims than the kidnappers.
(02-22-2011 10:21 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote: Well, let's see, if your 13 year old goes and kills someone, are YOU gonna be ok with leading them to the hangman's noose?
My kids aren't sociopaths that that have little chance of ever being productive members of society. I want them protected from what these kids will become later in life.
And who are you to say what these kids would have been, given the same opportunities? The lack of parents, and the total lack of gov't in Somalia is what is the cause. But hey, let's just shoot them all.
And I'm sure Ted Bundy's parents didn't think he'd be a sociopath either.
(02-23-2011 07:26 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote: And who are you to say what these kids would have been, given the same opportunities? The lack of parents, and the total lack of gov't in Somalia is what is the cause. But hey, let's just shoot them all.
And I'm sure Ted Bundy's parents didn't think he'd be a sociopath either.
If you think it's OK to shoot and rob people, no matter where and how you were raised, it's time you had some tough parenting at gunpoint.
02-23-2011 07:32 PM
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Libs always have someone else to blame. I asked "Why children?" The fact is even a child knows that taking another' one's life with a machine gun is wrong and could get you killed. It makes good print to point to the evil American child killers. We will easily overlook the fact that there are 4 dead Americans whose only crime was delivering christian bibles all over the world. What are dead christians compared to dead children.
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2011 08:45 PM by SumOfAllFears.)
(02-23-2011 07:26 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote: And who are you to say what these kids would have been, given the same opportunities? The lack of parents, and the total lack of gov't in Somalia is what is the cause. But hey, let's just shoot them all.
And I'm sure Ted Bundy's parents didn't think he'd be a sociopath either.
If you think it's OK to shoot and rob people, no matter where and how you were raised, it's time you had some tough parenting at gunpoint.
I didn't say I think it's right... I was saying that it happens...
As for delivering Bibles... good for them! But, they did deviate their course, did they not? (not that it should actually matter....)
(02-23-2011 07:26 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote: And who are you to say what these kids would have been, given the same opportunities? The lack of parents, and the total lack of gov't in Somalia is what is the cause. But hey, let's just shoot them all.
And I'm sure Ted Bundy's parents didn't think he'd be a sociopath either.
If you think it's OK to shoot and rob people, no matter where and how you were raised, it's time you had some tough parenting at gunpoint.
I didn't say I think it's right... I was saying that it happens...
As for delivering Bibles... good for them! But, they did deviate their course, did they not? (not that it should actually matter....)