(02-17-2011 09:58 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-17-2011 06:38 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I once lived in a liberal northeast state. In that state you could only buy alcohol in liquor stores. On Sunday if you wanted a six pack you had to find a bar that offered takeout. In that northeast state, I'd venture to guess the evangelical population at less that 10% I suspect that 10% had nothing to do with that very restrictive law (stricter than most southern states).

Almost sounds like PA. You can only buy beer in a beer distributor or at a restaurant. Here in the "Bible Belt" town of Augusta, GA, where the SBC was created, I can buy a 30 pack or wine at any given convenience store or grocery store. Can't buy on Sunday, but I can get sloshed in a restaurant after noon. Never figured that one out.

Even where I live, although you can buy on Sunday (grocery stores or wherever), you have to wait until noon any place you go. I think Wisconsin and/or Minnesota has the same thing, at least at the place I stopped while driving through. Pretty dumb, to me.

(02-17-2011 04:05 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-17-2011 09:58 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-17-2011 06:38 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I once lived in a liberal northeast state. In that state you could only buy alcohol in liquor stores. On Sunday if you wanted a six pack you had to find a bar that offered takeout. In that northeast state, I'd venture to guess the evangelical population at less that 10% I suspect that 10% had nothing to do with that very restrictive law (stricter than most southern states).

Almost sounds like PA. You can only buy beer in a beer distributor or at a restaurant. Here in the "Bible Belt" town of Augusta, GA, where the SBC was created, I can buy a 30 pack or wine at any given convenience store or grocery store. Can't buy on Sunday, but I can get sloshed in a restaurant after noon. Never figured that one out.

Even where I live, although you can buy on Sunday (grocery stores or wherever), you have to wait until noon any place you go. I think Wisconsin and/or Minnesota has the same thing, at least at the place I stopped while driving through. Pretty dumb, to me.

Here I California I can by any kind of booze 24/7. Dunno if Cali is afraid of losing the tax money or if they're worried about the rights of winos.

(02-15-2011 10:13 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I am NOT defending abortion, I am saying their is no pro death "ying" to the pro life "yang". I assume not all liberals or all CONservatives are Christians. I am speaking solely in political terms. You know how to tell who's against abortion? People that don't have one. Per Jesus "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's and render unto God what is God's" in other words politics and religion are seperate animals

Wow...just wow.

(02-15-2011 10:13 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I am NOT defending abortion, I am saying their is no pro death "ying" to the pro life "yang". I assume not all liberals or all CONservatives are Christians. I am speaking solely in political terms. You know how to tell who's against abortion? People that don't have one. Per Jesus "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's and render unto God what is God's" in other words politics and religion are seperate animals

Put down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.

Unless you want to cut taxes for Muslims, Jews, gays, athiests, buddists, and hindus then they deserve equal representation in government, they are citizen & tax payers and they should be expected to live within the laws set down by state, local and federal governments only. That is not a hard concept to grasp it's called seperation (it's kind of a big deal)

(02-17-2011 10:49 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Unless you want to cut taxes for Muslims, Jews, gays, athiests, buddists, and hindus then they deserve equal representation in government, they are citizen & tax payers and they should be expected to live within the laws set down by state, local and federal governments only. That is not a hard concept to grasp it's called seperation (it's kind of a big deal)

1. Where did this come from? It doesn't seem directly connected w/ any previous link.

2. Are you suggesting they're not equally represented?

I am suggesting social CONservatives do not want them to be represented equally and as communities attempt to ban the construction of mosques and gays aren't allow to at the very least have civil unions they are in fact not being allowed the same freedoms you and I have.

(02-18-2011 04:50 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I am suggesting social CONservatives do not want them to be represented equally and as communities attempt to ban the construction of mosques and gays aren't allow to at the very least have civil unions they are in fact not being allowed the same freedoms you and I have.

No problem with gays. I can do without the Hajis.

(02-18-2011 04:50 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I am suggesting social CONservatives do not want them to be represented equally and as communities attempt to ban the construction of mosques and gays aren't allow to at the very least have civil unions they are in fact not being allowed the same freedoms you and I have.

Maybe I have missed something. Who is calling for the BANNING of new Mosques? Or is this just your way of spinning the facts? What the mosque protesters wanted is for that group to move the location away from proximity to ground zero where many were murdered by Islamic extremists. So, you call it banning mosques. You spin well enough to work for MSNBC, NY Times, Time magazine or Newsweek. Kahn (?) is not who the MSM was trying to paint him as. He has a history (not moderate) and many of his provocative statements are stored digitally. Hard to deny he hasn't said those things.

How do you determine IF a group is being represented EQUALLY? Honest question, even if I have no idea where your comments came from other than out of left field.

Is equal representation determined by favors bestowed upon a group by our wonderfully benevolent government? Ex. - how many of you realize that the (now unconstitutional) Obamacare grants a waiver on a number of provisions to Muslims? Is that evidence of equal representation? Their greivance monger lobbyists and front groups did a good job bending somebody's ears on the healthcare bill to get them concessions unavailable to other ordinary Americans.

When you say "Obamacare" are you speaking of health insurance reform? This is HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM no kind of socialized medicine
or Medicare for all (which is what we deserve)

Of course I'm speaking about Healthcare reform. YOU may deserve Medicare and you can have it. I'll be heading to Costa Rico to pay for better care out of pocket, if that disaster of "REFORM" ever really becomes reality.

(02-18-2011 05:11 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  When you say "Obamacare" are you speaking of health insurance reform? This is HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM no kind of socialized medicine
or Medicare for all (which is what we deserve)

Why don't you cease the horse-sh!t parsing of words. You know exactly what he is referring to.

(02-18-2011 05:26 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Of course I'm speaking about Healthcare reform. YOU may deserve Medicare and you can have it. I'll be heading to Costa Rico to pay for better care out of pocket, if that disaster of "REFORM" ever really becomes reality.

See ya

Ah, cut him some slack. Parsing words is what he does best. Kind of his Columbo routine, without the intelligence part.

(02-18-2011 04:50 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  I am suggesting social CONservatives do not want them to be represented equally and as communities attempt to ban the construction of mosques and gays aren't allow to at the very least have civil unions they are in fact not being allowed the same freedoms you and I have.

Not sure about any mosque issues.

I've no real objection to civil unions, although I've yet to have anyone point out what freedoms that I have that are denied to gays.

Well the "Ground Zero Mosque" (the one that wasn't a Mosque and wasn't at "ground zero") comes to mind.

(02-18-2011 05:40 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Well the "Ground Zero Mosque" (the one that wasn't a Mosque and wasn't at "ground zero") comes to mind.

You mean the one that included a mosque and was just a few city blocks from ground zero?

You know, b/c you're all about facts.

(02-18-2011 06:27 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-18-2011 05:40 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  Well the "Ground Zero Mosque" (the one that wasn't a Mosque and wasn't at "ground zero") comes to mind.

You mean the one that included a mosque and was just a few city blocks from ground zero?

You know, b/c you're all about facts.

The one they have a right to build.I thought you were not familiar with any mosque issues.

Mr. P must be the only one here who would be hunky-dory with the KKK building a meeting place to plan their evil.

(02-18-2011 07:23 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Mr. P must be the only one here who would be hunky-dory with the KKK building a meeting place to plan their evil.

It's called freedom of assembly. As long as they don't violate the law they are welcome to parade their ignorance for all to see.