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Hitler saw to it the trains ran on time. Not much of a standard for whether someone would be a good Mayor or not.

But socialist meccas do love their fascist dictators.
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The way Chicago politics go, I still project him to win.
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(01-25-2011 08:16 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  There's a reason it's called Shitcago.

And theres a reason why you're now on my block list.

And im sure this has nothing to do with the decision at all.
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(01-24-2011 08:10 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
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Ooo, this is gonna be fun. NIU can no longer opine on any discussion that doesn't pertain to Chicago, Illinois, or the federal level. 05-stirthepot
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(01-25-2011 10:59 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 08:10 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
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Quote:Location: North Carolina

Ooo, this is gonna be fun. NIU can no longer opine on any discussion that doesn't pertain to Chicago, Illinois, or the federal level. 05-stirthepot

Have I ever? I couldn't care less about local politics in bum**** wherever it is you live.


Obviously, he lived here before being selected to serve in the Obama administration. He still owned, and continues to own, the house he lived in when he went to Washington; just because he rented it to someone, and did not leave it unoccupied so he could stay in it on return trips to Chicago, should not invalidate his Chicago residency.

I know Obama still has his residence that he stays in while in Chicago, but I'm sure it's guarded around the clock by the Secret Service and the Chicago Police even when he's not here. I'd bet Rahm didn't have that level of security as an option when he went to Washington at Obama's behest.

This whole attempt to keep him from running for mayor on these grounds is a waste of taxpayer money that should have never gotten as far as it has. It reflects poorly on those who forced this an an issue.

But Im glad you guys have won some sort of political point for an issue which will have zero effect on your own lives. Pretty easy not to live or visit here if you don't want to. Works for me.
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(01-25-2011 01:05 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 12:09 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Laws says you have to live there. He didn't. Pretty clear cut. Spin it all you want.

The law says nothing about "live". It says "maintain residency". From a legal definition standpoint, the two are not necessarily the same.

He served as a Congressional candidate for several years, owns a residence, kept possessions in Chicago, is registered to vote in Chicago, registered his car to his Chicago address, paid taxes in Illinois, etc. All of those are indicators that his intent was to return to Chicago after serving his term, which is what the legal precedent for which residency has always been based upon.

He went through a 3 day/12 hour hearing with the Board of Elections (with both sides presenting their case) and was cleared. That decision was further upheld by the Cook County Court. The appellate court has decided to take your strict translation of residency to equal "live", which does not have precedence.

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Someone appointed by Obama paying their taxes...now I've heard it all. 03-lmfao
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(01-25-2011 11:01 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 10:59 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 08:10 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-24-2011 08:08 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  F RE.

Quote:Location: North Carolina

Ooo, this is gonna be fun. NIU can no longer opine on any discussion that doesn't pertain to Chicago, Illinois, or the federal level. 05-stirthepot

Have I ever? I couldn't care less about local politics in bum**** wherever it is you live.

Of course.

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=47...pid6115393

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=46...pid5871927

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=45...pid5711384

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=43...pid5388394

Shall I continue? 05-stirthepot
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Giffords was a national tragedy. Has nothing to do with local politics, and my post dosent reference anything outside of asking for calm. The other 3 all involve constitutional issues as far as Im concerned.
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(01-25-2011 11:24 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Giffords was a national tragedy. Has nothing to do with local politics, and my post dosent reference anything outside of asking for calm. The other 3 all involve constitutional issues as far as Im concerned.

The election of Rahm Emanuel will also be a national tragedy. ...but you go ahead and try to justify your hypocrisy all you like.
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(01-25-2011 11:11 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 01:05 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 12:09 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Laws says you have to live there. He didn't. Pretty clear cut. Spin it all you want.

The law says nothing about "live". It says "maintain residency". From a legal definition standpoint, the two are not necessarily the same.

He served as a Congressional candidate for several years, owns a residence, kept possessions in Chicago, is registered to vote in Chicago, registered his car to his Chicago address, paid taxes in Illinois, etc. All of those are indicators that his intent was to return to Chicago after serving his term, which is what the legal precedent for which residency has always been based upon.

He went through a 3 day/12 hour hearing with the Board of Elections (with both sides presenting their case) and was cleared. That decision was further upheld by the Cook County Court. The appellate court has decided to take your strict translation of residency to equal "live", which does not have precedence.

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Someone appointed by Obama paying their taxes...now I've heard it all. 03-lmfao

Count it!
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(01-25-2011 11:25 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:24 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Giffords was a national tragedy. Has nothing to do with local politics, and my post dosent reference anything outside of asking for calm. The other 3 all involve constitutional issues as far as Im concerned.

The election of Rahm Emanuel will also be a national tragedy. ...but you go ahead and try to justify your hypocrisy all you like.

What you fail to grasp from thousands of miles away is that Rahm is the best candidate. Is that a commentary on the sorry state of politics here? Sure. But however bad you might think Rahm is, I can wholeheartedly assure you Carol Mosley Braun or Gery Chico would be far bigger disasters.

Interiview with Chico

I dont even need to get into CMB's past. She is certifiably bat **** crazy.
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(01-25-2011 11:32 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:25 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:24 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Giffords was a national tragedy. Has nothing to do with local politics, and my post dosent reference anything outside of asking for calm. The other 3 all involve constitutional issues as far as Im concerned.

The election of Rahm Emanuel will also be a national tragedy. ...but you go ahead and try to justify your hypocrisy all you like.

What you fail to grasp from thousands of miles away

What you fail to grasp is that if you don't like it...move. It's your choice, it's always been your choice, so stop whining.

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Emanuel is back on the ballot.

Wonder if Huskie84 will stop bawling.
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(01-25-2011 11:32 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:25 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:24 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Giffords was a national tragedy. Has nothing to do with local politics, and my post dosent reference anything outside of asking for calm. The other 3 all involve constitutional issues as far as Im concerned.

The election of Rahm Emanuel will also be a national tragedy. ...but you go ahead and try to justify your hypocrisy all you like.

What you fail to grasp from thousands of miles away is that Rahm is the best candidate. Is that a commentary on the sorry state of politics here? Sure. But however bad you might think Rahm is, I can wholeheartedly assure you Carol Mosley Braun or Gery Chico would be far bigger disasters.

Interiview with Chico

I dont even need to get into CMB's past. She is certifiably bat **** crazy.

You and I generally don't agree on stuff and that is fine. I understand your argument about Rahm being the best candidate in the race. I don't agree with it, but that is ok too.

All that being said, wouldn't you agree that Rahm entering the race, with his political and hollywood money backing, scared better candidates (see Tom Dart) out of the race? If this would have been dealt with faster (probably not possible), then you wouldn't be faced with what you see as a lack of good candidates.
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What about it?
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(01-25-2011 01:27 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:32 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:25 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 11:24 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Giffords was a national tragedy. Has nothing to do with local politics, and my post dosent reference anything outside of asking for calm. The other 3 all involve constitutional issues as far as Im concerned.

The election of Rahm Emanuel will also be a national tragedy. ...but you go ahead and try to justify your hypocrisy all you like.

What you fail to grasp from thousands of miles away is that Rahm is the best candidate. Is that a commentary on the sorry state of politics here? Sure. But however bad you might think Rahm is, I can wholeheartedly assure you Carol Mosley Braun or Gery Chico would be far bigger disasters.

Interiview with Chico

I dont even need to get into CMB's past. She is certifiably bat **** crazy.

You and I generally don't agree on stuff and that is fine. I understand your argument about Rahm being the best candidate in the race. I don't agree with it, but that is ok too.

All that being said, wouldn't you agree that Rahm entering the race, with his political and hollywood money backing, scared better candidates (see Tom Dart) out of the race? If this would have been dealt with faster (probably not possible), then you wouldn't be faced with what you see as a lack of good candidates.

Out of curiosity, who of the remaining 3 do you prefer?

I honestly don't know why Dart left the race. If Emanuel forced him out behind the scenes it wouldnt surprise me. On the other hand, its entirely possible Dart, like many other potential candidates, asked themselves why they would even want the job in the first place. A $600 million budget shortfall isn't exactly something people covet to manage. Not a whole lot of glory in that.

Of course it should have been dealt with sooner. But all of this was assumed to have been taken care of back in December when he was cleared by CBOE and the county.

From what I have read, it woudnt even have mattered if his wife/kids had stayed in the house and they had not rented it. The majority opinion was HE had to be physically present for the entire year leading up to the race. Does that mean if someone goes overseas for business for a month or two (or hell, takes a long vacation), that it invalidates their permanent residency? That makes absolutely no sense to me.
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(01-25-2011 02:29 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Out of curiosity, who of the remaining 3 do you prefer?

I honestly don't know why Dart left the race. If Emanuel forced him out behind the scenes it wouldnt surprise me. On the other hand, its entirely possible Dart, like many other potential candidates, asked themselves why they would even want the job in the first place. A $600 million budget shortfall isn't exactly something people covet to manage. Not a whole lot of glory in that.

Of course it should have been dealt with sooner. But all of this was assumed to have been taken care of back in December when he was cleared by CBOE and the county.

From what I have read, it woudnt even have mattered if his wife/kids had stayed in the house and they had not rented it. The majority opinion was HE had to be physically present for the entire year leading up to the race. Does that mean if someone goes overseas for business for a month or two (or hell, takes a long vacation), that it invalidates their permanent residency? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

To put it in a perhaps offensive way, picking the preferred candidate is much like picking the tallest midget...

Anybody but Braun and Rahm. Devalle (sp) seems to have some decent ideas. Chico at least has experience running an organization.

Rahm is the candidate of the machine. Rahm is forever tainted in my eyes because of the fraud in his first campaign for house. Tomczak went to jail for having city workers on city time campaign for Rahm. Rahm sat on the board of Freddie Mac (or was it Fannie). I see Rahm as dirty, and a continuation of the corruptness that is unfortunately rooted in the city.

I would guess Dart left, and others didn't get in when they heard Rahm, funded by Ari, was coming. They didn't think they could fight against that money. I do think it is distasteful that Rahm's first fundraiser was with the hollywood elites. If Rahm gets bounced, it is his fault that there are no other decent candidates.

He also keeps talking about respecting the will of the voter and the people should decide. By extension, then, I imagine he's against requiring signatures to get on the ballot, etc. His whole argument is disingenous at best, I think. There have to be some rules governing the process.

I understand what you are saying about taking a vacation, leaving for business, etc. Maybe in those cases, one could have an argument about where the line falls. But state law says he had to reside here, and it is obvious that he didn't for two years. In fact, he filed his taxes as a "part-time resident." He amended those around the time he announced for mayor. This is a lot different than someone went on vacation, in my mind.

It will be interesting to see, if he gets on the ballot and elected, what he does with the residency requirement for cops, firemen, teachers, etc.
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(01-25-2011 03:09 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  It will be interesting to see, if he gets on the ballot and elected, what he does with the residency requirement for cops, firemen, teachers, etc.

Don't a big number of cops and firemen live in Edison Park? Which is about as suburban, and as far away from "Chicago", as Chicago can get.
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(01-25-2011 03:22 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(01-25-2011 03:09 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  It will be interesting to see, if he gets on the ballot and elected, what he does with the residency requirement for cops, firemen, teachers, etc.

Don't a big number of cops and firemen live in Edison Park? Which is about as suburban, and as far away from "Chicago", as Chicago can get.

Pretty much. They all live extreme SW side. Morgan Park, Edison Park, Beverley, etc. They also all hate Rahm since he has threatened their pensions (and the fact that he's a liberal Chicago democrat, but so are all the other candidates). The FOP has endorsed Chico, although supposedly they polled rank and file and Rahm only lagged behind Chico by under 100 votes.
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Supreme Court allows Rahm on ballot.
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clou...today.html

""This court’s decision is based on the following and only on the following: (1) what it means to be a resident for election purposes was clearly established long ago, and Illinois law has been consistent on the matter since at least the 19th Century; (2) the novel standard adopted by the appellate court majority is without any foundation in Illinois law; (3) the Board’s factual findings were not against the manifest weight of the evidence; and (4) the Board’s decision was not clearly erroneous.""
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