In regards to this statement -

Even the recruiting has suffered because of the Alabama game:
http://twitter.com/coachbillcurry/status...7856017409

Isn't Curry saying that recruiting is easy at Alabama and they signed the NY POY while he was there?

(11-20-2010 02:54 AM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  Things got worse from there, as GSU got a weekly show, "Inside Panther Football," on CSS, not to be confused with the show it precedes, "Inside UGA Football."

Or the show that precedes it, Shorter Hawks Sports, or Inside Georgia Military Football with Bert Williams.

(11-19-2010 07:52 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  Even the recruiting has suffered because of the Alabama game:
http://twitter.com/coachbillcurry/status...7856017409

Please explain how Bill Curry telling the story of how Alabama signed Derrick Lassick in 1989 helped Georgia State recruiting.

First of all what is the CAA? The Colonial Athletic Conference I'm guessing? We don't want you in our conference and why are you even here? We are not in expansion mode and will not even offer an invitation to LA Tech and New Mexico St., much less a Division II or 1-AA or whatever you are school. Call the WAC. I'm sure they'd be interested....as long as you have a pulse.

(11-20-2010 11:58 AM)USACoN2012 Wrote:  

(11-19-2010 07:52 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  Even the recruiting has suffered because of the Alabama game:
http://twitter.com/coachbillcurry/status...7856017409

Please explain how Bill Curry telling the story of how Alabama signed Derrick Lassick in 1989 helped Georgia State recruiting.

(11-19-2010 07:52 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  highlighted by their 5-point escape against the "lowly" GSU.

That's pretty impressive given Georgia State's obvious advantage in coaching and D-1 talent. There is literally not a player on our roster, position by position, that is better than any one of Georgia State's guys. Your o-line was supposed to steamroll us, but somehow, someway, we miraculously held Georgia State, with guys like Sam Burkhalter (who had an invited walk-on offer to Georgia Tech) to just 46 yards on the ground. I can't believe a guy like Kendall Houston (not a decent transfer), who didn't even sniff the field at a lowly FBS school, outgained Cole Moon, the nation's No. 10 fullback. I mean, is Santuan McGee better than Cole Moon, the No. 10 full back in the nation? I can't believe Kendall Houston made superstars like those samaon guys miss tackle after tackle, and Paul Bennett, who barely sniffed the field at a lowly FBS school, knocked the great samoan guys and their friend that turned down an offer from West Virginia back about 5 yards time after time. I can't believe that the great samoans, who led the Georgia State linebackers in tackles. didn't literally bend over and violate Jake Johnson, who didn't even sniff the starting lineup at USA, but Jake Johnson obliterated Sidney Haynes, leading to an interception. Jake Johnson was a solid ACC player, but to compare him to a guy like Jake Muasau is a bit of a stretch. There is a reason Jake Johnson was demoted to DE and why his playing time was cut. We can talk about how 220-pound LBs can be better than 240-pound LBs until the cows come home, but I was specifically talking about the combination of size AND speed, and guys like Muasau brothers are absolute freaks that you will rarely find in non-BCS teams, which is why these guys had offers from PAC-10 and Big 12 schools to begin with. To be a 240-pound LB and run a 40-yard dash under 4.5 second is pretty remarkable on any level. It's one thing to run the ball against prep-school kids vs. guys like them, and I thought USA will see the difference right away, to the tune of 293 rushing yards. Look, if we're going to compare players solely on potential and most-improved accolades, I can give you a long list of those from GSU. But to say that Ralph Turner, unranked on any recruiting service, is better than Parris Lee, a Rivals Top 100 position player, is just throwing out the entire premise of our debate. would tell you the same thing about Cole Moon as I did about Parris Lee -- you don't get to be ranked nationally at any position without having the goods, and if Cole Moon ends up not red-shirting, we will find out who's right, although obviously Moon will have the advantage of being behind a pretty ridiculous OL (or getting knocked backwards by South Alabama's OL because they moved him to defense).

The words in bold are either exacts quotes from SaintDK10 or paraphrased from one of his many brilliant posts.

No matter how you try to spin it, slice it, dice it, or chop it, Forgive me for not taking anything you post seriously. Need I say more?

(11-19-2010 12:13 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(11-18-2010 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  South Alabama would have so given the Tide a better game

South Alabama was to busy playing division 2 programs

And also beating 4 (count 'em, hogbreath) Division I-AA teams. Oh, you didn't know that? That would be surprising, a hog fan not actually being knowlegeable about all things football.

(11-20-2010 02:54 AM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 02:40 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  I'm sorry, but I just can't help but laugh hysterically anytime a GaSt poster attempts to put down the SB by stating how "vastly superior" the CAA is. That's awesome. You guys would KILL to get in our conference, right now.

We would kill for Big East, work really hard for C-USA, but hardly flinch for Sun Belt. See, Sun Belt as a conference has an atrocious academic profile that would be an embarrassment to the nationally ranked GSU programs in business, law, policy studies, economics, etc. I mean for crying out loud, look at USA's admission requirements. You need what, a pulse to get in? Most junior colleges in Georgia have higher admission standards than USA.

Furthermore, considering that Sun Belt basketball ranks about 10 RPI spots behind the CAA on any given year, moving our basketball team, however easier the competition would get, would not be in our best interest. Baseball is one of Sun Belt's strong suites, but let's face it, the sport is not as popular as football or basketball, so the trade-off would not be equitable for us to say the least.

So why would GSU even consider joining Sun Belt? Simple -- it would be a stepping-stone for a respectable FBS conference such as C-USA, and who knows, maybe even Big East down the line. But if you, or any other Sun Belt fans think for one second we would "kill" to be in your league, you are sorely mistaken. Sun Belt would be nothing more than means to an end, and the end would be something between C-USA and Big East.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Georgia State will be lucky to have an invitation from any FBS conference in the next ten years. You're not going to the Big East, you're not going to C-USA. Inevitably you will end up in the Sun Belt at some point, or perhaps some reconfiguration but a southern based league of a similar status. Whenever you join the Sun Belt or whatever your FBS starter league is, you'll have plenty of catching up to do to the majority of your new conference mates and I understand that you're a fan and you think you're on the fast track and you're only going to stop off in the Sun Belt(or wherever) for a cup of coffee before moving on to bigger and better things, but you're going to have anywhere from seven to eleven other schools in a similar position trying to accomplish the exact same things you are.

Of all schools that are remotely in the current footprint of the Sun Belt that aren't playing FBS football, Georgia State is probably no higher than 10th in line for an invite to the Sun Belt. A list that Georgia State will most certainly move up and could possibly end up at the top of in a five years or so, or at least to within reach of the top. Perhaps after Appy State continues to decide to stay FCS, because I don't see you guys passing the Mountaineers anytime soon and FWIW if I were going to put my eggs in the basket of a startup right now, it would be UNC Charlotte.

Now in regards to C-USA all those same schools would be ahead of you along with all of the Sun Belt and La Tech. Again this is a list Georgia State could climb and quickly with success and there are some Sun Belt schools you might be able to pass on that list without first moving to the Sun Belt. Perhaps you could pass some of the schools who aren't in or near major markets and/or schools who have smaller enrollments, but I don't see Sun Belt schools like MT, WKU, FAU, FIU, and UNT getting passed over by C-USA for an FCS school unless that school is in a major market, winning 10+ games a year and averaging 30k a game. Now I'm sure you think that's what's ahead for Georgia State, but it's not. The novelty of GSU football will wear off and the fringe fans, those who are just checking it out because it's something new, many of whom are probably GSU alumns but have been going to GT or UGA games for years will lose interest in your CAA schedule, especially when you start getting waxed by those teams, you lost by 14 this year to ODU a school that had a one year head start on you guys. I imagine it's going to take you guys at least a few years of playing to even have a winning record against a full FCS schedule. No FBS league, not even the Sun Belt that you're already somehow too good for, is going to fall all over themselves to add you when in a few years you're going 5-7 and averaging 15k fans.

Every FCS fan sees Boise State and every start up fan sees USF and they all think that's going to be them. Georgia State is not going to be Boise or USF. They are the exceptions, not the rule. What seperates GSU from all the other teams that have moved up in the last fifteen years or the other schools who aspire to move up within the next ten years? The odds are much higher that GSU will be another FIU than another USF or Boise.

Your fan base might not jump at a Sun Belt invite today, but your administration would and in another five years when you're a middle of the pack CAA school both your fans and your admininstration would jump at a Sun Belt invite and you and the rest of your fans will still suffer from the delusions of grandeur that your stay in the Sun Belt will be brief.

It's just not that easy.

Lastly in regards to comparing your blowout loss to those of Sun Belt schools, apples to oranges my friend. As I said in my original post, it didn't look that bad and by that I was implying that many Sun Belt schools have had losses that bad in recent years, however, in those Sun Belt losses we didn't allow an above average college quarterback to go 12-13(92% a new school record for for a QB that attempted at least 10 passes) and two touchdowns in less than a quarter and a half. Make no mistake about it, Alabama could have beaten you guys twice as badly, but their starters were already looking at film for Auburn at half time.

(11-20-2010 12:16 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  First of all what is the CAA? The Colonial Athletic Conference I'm guessing? We don't want you in our conference and why are you even here? We are not in expansion mode and will not even offer an invitation to LA Tech and New Mexico St., much less a Division II or 1-AA or whatever you are school. Call the WAC. I'm sure they'd be interested....as long as you have a pulse.

(11-20-2010 11:58 AM)USACoN2012 Wrote:  

(11-19-2010 07:52 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  Even the recruiting has suffered because of the Alabama game:
http://twitter.com/coachbillcurry/status...7856017409

Please explain how Bill Curry telling the story of how Alabama signed Derrick Lassick in 1989 helped Georgia State recruiting.

Who posted a GSU thread? We didnt. And I defy you to find even one GSU fan who wants us in the Sunbelt. In fact has anyone on ncaabbs EVER pimped GSU to the Sunbelt? LOL! Be serious. If I get an alert about a GSU thread, yeah I am going to check it out. And yes I am going to defend my school. But dont confuse that with us filling out a membership app.

(11-20-2010 12:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 02:54 AM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 02:40 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  I'm sorry, but I just can't help but laugh hysterically anytime a GaSt poster attempts to put down the SB by stating how "vastly superior" the CAA is. That's awesome. You guys would KILL to get in our conference, right now.

We would kill for Big East, work really hard for C-USA, but hardly flinch for Sun Belt. See, Sun Belt as a conference has an atrocious academic profile that would be an embarrassment to the nationally ranked GSU programs in business, law, policy studies, economics, etc. I mean for crying out loud, look at USA's admission requirements. You need what, a pulse to get in? Most junior colleges in Georgia have higher admission standards than USA.

Furthermore, considering that Sun Belt basketball ranks about 10 RPI spots behind the CAA on any given year, moving our basketball team, however easier the competition would get, would not be in our best interest. Baseball is one of Sun Belt's strong suites, but let's face it, the sport is not as popular as football or basketball, so the trade-off would not be equitable for us to say the least.

So why would GSU even consider joining Sun Belt? Simple -- it would be a stepping-stone for a respectable FBS conference such as C-USA, and who knows, maybe even Big East down the line. But if you, or any other Sun Belt fans think for one second we would "kill" to be in your league, you are sorely mistaken. Sun Belt would be nothing more than means to an end, and the end would be something between C-USA and Big East.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Georgia State will be lucky to have an invitation from any FBS conference in the next ten years. You're not going to the Big East, you're not going to C-USA. Inevitably you will end up in the Sun Belt at some point, or perhaps some reconfiguration but a southern based league of a similar status. Whenever you join the Sun Belt or whatever your FBS starter league is, you'll have plenty of catching up to do to the majority of your new conference mates and I understand that you're a fan and you think you're on the fast track and you're only going to stop off in the Sun Belt(or wherever) for a cup of coffee before moving on to bigger and better things, but you're going to have anywhere from seven to eleven other schools in a similar position trying to accomplish the exact same things you are.

Of all schools that are remotely in the current footprint of the Sun Belt that aren't playing FBS football, Georgia State is probably no higher than 10th in line for an invite to the Sun Belt. A list that Georgia State will most certainly move up and could possibly end up at the top of in a five years or so, or at least to within reach of the top. Perhaps after Appy State continues to decide to stay FCS, because I don't see you guys passing the Mountaineers anytime soon and FWIW if I were going to put my eggs in the basket of a startup right now, it would be UNC Charlotte.

Now in regards to C-USA all those same schools would be ahead of you along with all of the Sun Belt and La Tech. Again this is a list Georgia State could climb and quickly with success and there are some Sun Belt schools you might be able to pass on that list without first moving to the Sun Belt. Perhaps you could pass some of the schools who aren't in or near major markets and/or schools who have smaller enrollments, but I don't see Sun Belt schools like MT, WKU, FAU, FIU, and UNT getting passed over by C-USA for an FCS school unless that school is in a major market, winning 10+ games a year and averaging 30k a game. Now I'm sure you think that's what's ahead for Georgia State, but it's not. The novelty of GSU football will wear off and the fringe fans, those who are just checking it out because it's something new, many of whom are probably GSU alumns but have been going to GT or UGA games for years will lose interest in your CAA schedule, especially when you start getting waxed by those teams, you lost by 14 this year to ODU a school that had a one year head start on you guys. I imagine it's going to take you guys at least a few years of playing to even have a winning record against a full FCS schedule. No FBS league, not even the Sun Belt that you're already somehow too good for, is going to fall all over themselves to add you when in a few years you're going 5-7 and averaging 15k fans.

Every FCS fan sees Boise State and every start up fan sees USF and they all think that's going to be them. Georgia State is not going to be Boise or USF. They are the exceptions, not the rule. What seperates GSU from all the other teams that have moved up in the last fifteen years or the other schools who aspire to move up within the next ten years? The odds are much higher that GSU will be another FIU than another USF or Boise.

Your fan base might not jump at a Sun Belt invite today, but your administration would and in another five years when you're a middle of the pack CAA school both your fans and your admininstration would jump at a Sun Belt invite and you and the rest of your fans will still suffer from the delusions of grandeur that your stay in the Sun Belt will be brief.

It's just not that easy.

Lastly in regards to comparing your blowout loss to those of Sun Belt schools, apples to oranges my friend. As I said in my original post, it didn't look that bad and by that I was implying that many Sun Belt schools have had losses that bad in recent years, however, in those Sun Belt losses we didn't allow an above average college quarterback to go 12-13(92% a new school record for for a QB that attempted at least 10 passes) and two touchdowns in less than a quarter and a half. Make no mistake about it, Alabama could have beaten you guys twice as badly, but their starters were already looking at film for Auburn at half time.

I hate to ask the same question I have been asking USA and Ga Southern and FCS scum for 18 months but, why do you care. Why even post this thread to tear at a school you will never play and will never be in the same conference with? Are people in the Sunbelt that insecure? Ok, well we know about USA's issues. But the rest of you, seriously. Did you really expect to post a thread and drag us through the mud and not get even a How Do You do response from a GSU fan. Relax, its just football. And like I said, I can assure you nobody in Atlanta is making overtures towards the Sunbelt...at all...ever.

By the way, I actually do like watching Sunbelt football. Just dont particularly like having punches thrown at me.

As for us being another FIU I doubt that. Atlanta is a college football town which is why the Hall of Fame is moving here. We play in wonderful facility 3 blocks from campus which is another hurdle FIU had to jump. The Dade County is in a depression. There is no other way to term it. I visit Miami at least 3 to 6 times per year and the difference from even 2007 to today is staggering. So in an environment where a competitive Miami team is playing to a 2/3 empty stadium, what chance does FIU have in not the greatest facility. I dont think we will have the same issues. We ended up in the 10 Ten in FCS attendance despite playing a lot of teams most are unfamiliar with and despite the pressures of the Braves, Falcons, Georgia Tech and Georgia. This game Thursday night has just added fuel to that. Nobody expected us to win so we lose nothing. What did we gain? I have gotten nothing but positive comments yesterday in Birmingham from Bama fans, from people in Atlanta when I got home you name it. We just have to stay the course and grow the program much as USA, UTSA and ODU have to. Conference pictures will take care of themselves. As for moving to FBS, we like UTSA know we need to move up because FCS football does not do well long term in cities the size of Atlanta. Not a reason in and of itself to move up. The main reason to move up should be economic viability. I think we will have that. If we can average 17k a game playing Shorter and Savannah State, those numbers can only go up once we play more recognizable opponents. We know its not easy. Most of us who post online have been more than just casual fans our entire lives. We're the ones talking our fan base of the ledge from ridiculous Big East and ACC dreams. (I am sure every fan base has those). So we know this will be a long journey. Heck, even USF is still struggling to fill RayJay. But if this last 3 months and Thursday Night in particular are any indication of what were up against, well that's ok with me.

(11-20-2010 01:20 PM)panama Wrote:  I hate to ask the same question I have been asking USA and Ga Southern and FCS scum for 18 months but, why do you care. Why even post this thread to tear at a school you will never play and will never be in the same conference with? Are people in the Sunbelt that insecure? Ok, well we know about USA's issues. But the rest of you, seriously. Did you really expect to post a thread and drag us through the mud and not get even a How Do You do response from a GSU fan. Relax, its just football. And like I said, I can assure you nobody in Atlanta is making overtures towards the Sunbelt...at all...ever.

Fans like yourself are why we care. You don't like your program being badmouthed and we don't like fans of a joke of a program thinking your too good for the Sun Belt or that you're going to leapfrog us when we're working just as hard as you are and have beeing doing it for longer.

You aren't going straight to C-USA and you certainly aren't going straight to the Big East.

Let me paint the picture for you friend. In another five years or so when you're having mediocre seasons and still averaging less than 20k fans and by my estimation I expect you'll actually regress to less than 15k fans, you'll change your tune to something like "C-USA is never going to invite us as long as we're averaging 15k fans a game. As much as we don't want to, we need to join the Sun Belt. If we can average 15k against our current schedule, surely we can average 20k-25k playing in the Sun Belt against teams people have actually heard of. Sun Belt fans will also travel better and since the Sun Belt is a glorified FCS league we don't have to worry about increased competition. Lastly and most importantly with our new FBS association we can start playing other FBS teams at home we can start building rivalries with C-USA and Big East teams and bring in the occasional SEC or ACC school, once we start doing that our average attendance will skyrocket and we can leave the Sun Belt behind for C-USA if the Big East doesn't beat them to the punch."

I guarantee you that will be your position within the decade. The cruel reality of how difficult it is to build a program will set in, but you'll still suffer from the same delusions of grandeur and start blaming your lack of success on your conference/FCS affiliation. You will view joining the Sun Belt as a necessary evil, you'll arrive in the Sun Belt, if you get an invite and you'll be in for another wake up call when you don't come in and win the league in the first season, but you'll blame it on your recruitment being hampered from FCS affiliation, both your quantity and quality of recruits, but once you get your numbers up you'll start running roughshod through the Sun Belt and you'll be "back on track for the Big East".

This is how it will go for GSU football and that's if you're lucky.

panama wrote: "I hate to ask the same I have been asking USA and Ga Southern and FCS scum for 18 months but, why do you care. (?) Why even post this thread to tear at a school you will never play and will never be in the same conference with? Are people in the Sunbelt that insecure? Ok, well we know about USA's issues. But the rest of you, seriously. Did you really expect to post a thread and drag us through the mud and not get even a How Do You do response from a GSU fan. (?) Relax, its just football. And like I said, I can assure you nobody in Atlanta is making overtures towards the Sunbelt...at all...ever.
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Scum? Really? The Urban Atlanta State University calling other schools "scum"? Now that really takes the cake. Not too many blocks from your school is a blighted area ready for the bulldozer brigade. As far as "dragging gsu through the mud, well on your venom-spewing board, "Panther Talk", you people spoke with much trash against South Alabama acting superior to toward our school and football program, but you probably didn't think anyone knew...The "I can assure you nobody in Atlanta is making overtures towards the Sunbelt...at all...ever" statement is proof of your superiority attitude, but we can only hope that you'll never be in or play SBC teams, ever, is a bit of good news, but we all know all you are doing is blowing smoke. Like someone mentioned, GSU will be begging the SBC for consideration for membership. BTW, is your team playing the mighty Lambuth next year?

(11-20-2010 02:38 AM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  Meanwhile, the vaunted Jaguars of USA are either unheard of or thought of as a Division 2 program outside of Mobile, and boast a "perfect" 2nd year record where they played a whopping 3 Division 1 teams, highlighted by their 5-point escape against the "lowly" GSU.

Total Yards:
USA 474
GaSt 234

Rushing Yards:
USA 293
GaSt 46

Passing Yards (Ga St forced to throw being down 30-14 at the half):
GaSt 234
USA 181

Yards Per Rush:
USA 6.0
GaSt 2.4

Yards Per Pass:
USA 7.5
GaSt 6.7

First Downs:
USA 24
GaSt 15

Time Of Possession:
USA 36:01
GaSt 23:59

GEORGIA STATE IS NOT SUN BELT FORUM RELEVANT.

CAN WE PLEASE MOVE THIS TO THE SMACK FORUM OR INTO OBLIVION ALREADY?

We are not going to agree but at this point I am used to it. So let me paint you a picture. Troy just got blasted by SCarolina 69-24. It was 28-0 after 1 and 56-7 at the half. So if we're still getting blasted by BCS teams in 6 years like Sunbelt teams get blasted weekly by BCS teams NOW, then I will concede your points. Until then its just conjecture and it seems like we're no worse in our first year than the bottom half of the Sunbelt. And no need to move it, I think we're done here.

(11-20-2010 03:04 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 02:38 AM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(11-19-2010 10:03 PM)OldJaguar Wrote:  Well actually GSU did not show as well as Troy. If not for the CBC poor ole Bill feelings the Tide would not have run the same play every down of the last 4 possessions with the # 12 running back. Sorry despite your hopes, your Defense did not pridefully bow up.

Remember this Mr. Saint that Troy team who lost to FLA then would beat you 50-7 now. An unclassified USA team beat GSU and will again next year and most likely will forever. That said USA will have a very long hard road before they can beat TROY.

So crawl away to your hole and think before you take swings at a team ( Troy) with whom you will never compete .
Go to your fantasy cave where you can drink the Blue Kool Aid and have friends who talk about how good last night was for your program.


Hey here is something where you are # 1
Georgia State University, pridefully boasting they have the largest Campus Police force in the nation. And they need it.

Yeah, you're right. Last night, and pretty much the entire season has been a complete blunder for GSU.

It started off with a dedicated section in Atlanta-Journal Constitution, followed by the 8-part ESPN series culminating in the team being featured on the cover of ESPN the Magazine.

Things got worse from there, as GSU got a weekly show, "Inside Panther Football," on CSS, not to be confused with the show it precedes, "Inside UGA Football."

Then the lowly Panthers end up clinching a winning inaugural season and averaging just under 17,000 fans at home.

To cap it all off, now the Panthers finish the season with its 4th televised game of the year, this one nationally, hosted by ESPN College Game Day crew, against defending national Champion Alabama, all the while having to bear the burden of receiving nearly half a mill while getting national exposure.

Even the recruiting has suffered because of the Alabama game:
http://twitter.com/coachbillcurry/status...7856017409

Meanwhile, the vaunted Jaguars of USA are either unheard of or thought of as a Division 2 program outside of Mobile, and boast a "perfect" 2nd year record where they played a whopping 3 Division 1 teams, highlighted by their 5-point escape against the "lowly" GSU.

What can I say, we'll just "crawl back" to our hole of national media coverage as we transition to the CAA, a conference that has been consistently ranked ahead of Sun Belt in Sagarin ratings for years now. By golly, what a terrible future GSU has ahead of itself, LMAO!!!!

Ah, you see, two different paths. South chose the slow and steady approach. Red shirted all of our eligible players our first two years, who were still able to play thanks to our unclassified status (funny your heralded coach didn't know that, whoops), slowly built up the competition, made winning a habit, etc. THEN, in later years we have our paydays and step up in competition. We'll get close to a million for going to Tennessee in 2013, a figure you'll never approach. We have home games scheduled with SEC, ACC, Big 12, and CUSA teams. We averaged over 18,000 fans this year with a tenth of the population base of Atlanta and less than half of the enrollment of GaSt, playing the schedule that we played. We took 4,000 fans to our first ever away game 4 hours away. Had 400 go to California, in our 2nd year as a program.

Meanwhile, GaSt can't draw 10% of its students to home games, has crap for a traveling fanbase (maybe 40 GaSt fans in Mobile for the game), and has nothing on future schedules that would encourage excitement from players or fans alike. Wait, does GaSt even have a schedule for 2011? Credit where credit is due. Good job with all the pub, just so long as you know that the only reason you got it is because of your coach and his ties. And after this, your inaugural season, back to obscurity you'll go.

Saint, I'll give you this buddy - you are one entertaining son of a gun.

P.S. Aren't there SOS listings out there that show that South Alabama actually had a higher rated schedule this year than GaSt?

Oh we took two different approaches alright. GSU exploded on the national scene with print, radio, TV and online coverage while USA is virtually unknown outside of Mobile. But hey, to each his own, right?

Despite the fact that GSU competes with four pro-franchises and two BCS programs literally in our back yard, we still averaged just shy of 17,000 fans in our first season. USA, on the other hand, literally has no competition for attention within or outside of Metro Mobile area, and all they could muster is a couple of thousand more in attendance than GSU. Hardly something to brag about, but like I said, to each his own.

GSU brought over 5,000 fans to Tuscaloosa, but if you think we're going to subject our fanbase to a trip to that "lovely" city all the Sun Belt fans are dreading of going to, you are sorely mistaken.

As far as our schedule, brother you have no idea what's about to come out in the next few months. I'm actually surprised the local know-it-all resident AtlantaJag who has all these "connections" in the Atlanta media doesn't already know some of the FBS opponents GSU has lined up. But then again, this is the same guy that predicted we would average 10K fans per game in our inaugural season.

(11-20-2010 03:12 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 02:54 AM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 02:40 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  I'm sorry, but I just can't help but laugh hysterically anytime a GaSt poster attempts to put down the SB by stating how "vastly superior" the CAA is. That's awesome. You guys would KILL to get in our conference, right now.

So why would GSU even consider joining Sun Belt? Simple -- it would be a stepping-stone for a respectable FBS conference such as C-USA, and who knows, maybe even Big East down the line. But if you, or any other Sun Belt fans think for one second we would "kill" to be in your league, you are sorely mistaken. Sun Belt would be nothing more than means to an end, and the end would be something between C-USA and Big East.

And this is why I love this guy!

That little blurb about South's admission requirements really stung. Ouch. I could go on about our Tier 1 status, med school, endowment, yada yada yada, but blah. None of our schools could ever hope to be the Yale of night school such as GaSt. Alas . . .

You continue to show just how little you understand about the grand scheme of things. Congrats!

See this is exactly what I'm talking about. I am exchanging posts with a guy that doesn't understand the difference between a national research university and a regional master's institution. GSU and USA are not even in the same category of rankings. GSU has nationally ranked programs across the board whereas USA is probably one of the most atrocious institutions of "higher" learning in the country. No amount of endowment-inflating assets from your med school change the fact that USA has virtually no national recognition in any of its academic programs, or the fact that you only need to be a warm-blooded mammal to get into USA.

(11-20-2010 10:02 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I'm seeing some faulty logic here.

If you think our conference sucks why lobby for membership.

There is a distinct difference between lobbying and settling. Really, there is.

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You frustrate me in the, oh-my-god-you're-a-moron-that-doesn't-get-it-and-has-been-so-wrong-it's-funny, kind of way.

Go back to running that tight ship over there on Panther Talk and shutting down the threads anytime the mention of wanting FBS transition pops up. Can't be getting hopes up over there!

P.S. I'd love to get your take on our recruiting class next year and for you to compare our roster to yours again next season. Your last analysis was spot on. From violation to fullbacks, just absolute pure gold.

(11-20-2010 10:22 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  GSU exploded on the national scene with print, radio, TV and online coverage while USA is virtually unknown outside of Mobile. But hey, to each his own, right?

I have to be honest with you bro, I had no idea GSU even existed until these little threads about expansion started popping up. I don't know what your idea of "exploding on the national scene" is, but that can't be it. I would have at least been pegged by some of the shrapnel, no? Maybe you're some basketball powerhouse? I don't know, I don't follow basketball.