This might turn out to be a favorable situation for Hawaii. It gives Hawaii more options for scheduling games against PAC 12 schools. Also, it makes it easier to schedule home and home games against San Diego State, BYU, Navy and Notre Dame.

With the addition of UTSA on its conference schedule, it will make Air Force a likely home and home option in the near future. San Antonio is a Air Force town. Plus Texas State is about an hour away from San Antonio near a big Army base. That makes Army an opition as well.

Retired military officers have a lot of money to spend and can get to Hawaii easily.

A seven game conference season plus 5 games OCC games against

1. BYU
2. Notre Dame
3. Navy or Air Force or Army
4. San Diego State
5. Pac 12 (USC, UCLA, California, Stanford, etc.)

Hawaii becomes the top dog in the WAC plus guranteed money making home games against out of conference teams. I don't think Hawaii is feeling sad for itself. It looks like all the moves so far benefit Hawaii.

(11-11-2010 11:42 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(11-11-2010 02:57 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(11-11-2010 02:28 PM)SidJag Wrote:  The defection of Boise State, Fresno State and Nevada to the Mountain West and the upcoming announcement of the addition Texas State and UT-San Antonio (and Denver for basketball) really changes the complextion of college athletics in the Southwest. Is it me or are these changes going to pole vault the Sun Belt Conference over the whacked-out WAC in strength and quality? It seems the Sun Belt has already overtaken the MAC.

Is there a reason why people on this board keep playing the ignorance card and stating that the Sun Belt has overtaken the MAC? Especially those that support a team whose biggest win in history is over a DIII school or whatever comparable patsy USA has scheduled to build momentum for its program. The MAC will probably land 5 - 6 bowls games this year and has two teams (NIU and Temple) knocking on the door of the top 25 with both registering wins over teams from BCS conferences. The Sun Belt has no marquis wins and its top team is knocking on the door of the top 100. Like I have said before, I have nothing against the Belt but making uneducated statements ate totally unnecessary. Do your homework before you post. The MAC is just as likely to benefit as much or even more from the demise of the WAC as the Belt. If anything, both conferences will move up the chain. Oh, and the MAC also has a better TV package...

Using the correct 'marquee' would help your arrogance to be more effective. The other poster says it 'seems' the Sun Belt has overtaken the MAC. You can give a counter argument why this might not be true, but your writing style wouldn't lead many to take it constructively.

What's wrong with his Marquis?



One of these days a Sun Belt team is gonna win one of those bad boys...

(11-11-2010 02:57 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(11-11-2010 02:28 PM)SidJag Wrote:  The defection of Boise State, Fresno State and Nevada to the Mountain West and the upcoming announcement of the addition Texas State and UT-San Antonio (and Denver for basketball) really changes the complextion of college athletics in the Southwest. Is it me or are these changes going to pole vault the Sun Belt Conference over the whacked-out WAC in strength and quality? It seems the Sun Belt has already overtaken the MAC.

Is there a reason why people on this board keep playing the ignorance card and stating that the Sun Belt has overtaken the MAC? Especially those that support a team whose biggest win in history is over a DIII school or whatever comparable patsy USA has scheduled to build momentum for its program. The MAC will probably land 5 - 6 bowls games this year and has two teams (NIU and Temple) knocking on the door of the top 25 with both registering wins over teams from BCS conferences. The Sun Belt has no marquis wins and its top team is knocking on the door of the top 100. Like I have said before, I have nothing against the Belt but making uneducated statements ate totally unnecessary. Do your homework before you post. The MAC is just as likely to benefit as much or even more from the demise of the WAC as the Belt. If anything, both conferences will move up the chain. Oh, and the MAC also has a better TV package...

I think I will agree with you that this year the MAC is stronger. Arguably the sun belt was just as good if not better last season. I think the point you're not getting is that in ten years the sun belt has just about caught up and as has already been stated, is dominating yours in attendance. That's ten years, I read the MAC was formed in the 1950s. The truth is, it's remarkable how much the sun belt has improved while the MAC has stayed stagnant. With the trend in population shifting south and the sun belt getting stronger each year, although this year has been rough, we are on pace to overtake the MAC, period. In the future, if all the remaining teams are still in place, it will be stronger top to bottom than both the WAC and the MAC. That's it. Period.

(11-12-2010 10:02 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-11-2010 11:42 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(11-11-2010 02:57 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(11-11-2010 02:28 PM)SidJag Wrote:  The defection of Boise State, Fresno State and Nevada to the Mountain West and the upcoming announcement of the addition Texas State and UT-San Antonio (and Denver for basketball) really changes the complextion of college athletics in the Southwest. Is it me or are these changes going to pole vault the Sun Belt Conference over the whacked-out WAC in strength and quality? It seems the Sun Belt has already overtaken the MAC.

Is there a reason why people on this board keep playing the ignorance card and stating that the Sun Belt has overtaken the MAC? Especially those that support a team whose biggest win in history is over a DIII school or whatever comparable patsy USA has scheduled to build momentum for its program. The MAC will probably land 5 - 6 bowls games this year and has two teams (NIU and Temple) knocking on the door of the top 25 with both registering wins over teams from BCS conferences. The Sun Belt has no marquis wins and its top team is knocking on the door of the top 100. Like I have said before, I have nothing against the Belt but making uneducated statements ate totally unnecessary. Do your homework before you post. The MAC is just as likely to benefit as much or even more from the demise of the WAC as the Belt. If anything, both conferences will move up the chain. Oh, and the MAC also has a better TV package...

Using the correct 'marquee' would help your arrogance to be more effective. The other poster says it 'seems' the Sun Belt has overtaken the MAC. You can give a counter argument why this might not be true, but your writing style wouldn't lead many to take it constructively.

What's wrong with his Marquis?



One of these days a Sun Belt team is gonna win one of those bad boys...

(11-12-2010 10:03 AM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  I think I will agree with you that this year the MAC is stronger. Arguably the sun belt was just as good if not better last season. I think the point you're not getting is that in ten years the sun belt has just about caught up and as has already been stated, is dominating yours in attendance. That's ten years, I read the MAC was formed in the 1950s. The truth is, it's remarkable how much the sun belt has improved while the MAC has stayed stagnant. With the trend in population shifting south and the sun belt getting stronger each year, although this year has been rough, we are on pace to overtake the MAC, period. In the future, if all the remaining teams are still in place, it will be stronger top to bottom than both the WAC and the MAC. That's it. Period.

I can't tell who is stronger this year, but we should have some quality QB's in the SBC for the next few years.

Hawaii doesn't seem too happy with the new WAC-Lite.:odie:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/spo...te_UH.html

(11-12-2010 02:15 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Hawaii doesn't seem too happy with the new WAC-Lite.:odie:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/spo...te_UH.html

Hawaii is never happy. Give them a million dollars tax free and they will ***** that you gave it them in twenties.

Quote:"We will look at all our options, including staying in the WAC," athletic director Jim Donovan said following the conference's announcement.

I'd like to know what they're option(s) are.
1. Indy
2. ?

Hawaii would be making a bad decision to go Independent. Nobody wants to go to Hawaii because it costs far too much. How are they going to get six teams who want to travel there every season? They aren't going to get the BCS schools to travel there very often and the non-BCS schools don't have the money to waste on that trip.

I don't see why the MWC would want them. Is Hawaii any good in basketball? I doubt it.

They would just drain too much $$ from those schools to send all their sports to Hawaii. Hawaii should stay put in the WAC. The WAC is going to hold them in high-esteem now because they are their only semi-recognizable/successful team remaining in football.

(11-12-2010 02:18 PM)dchi72 Wrote:  

(11-12-2010 02:15 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Hawaii doesn't seem too happy with the new WAC-Lite.:odie:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/spo...te_UH.html

Hawaii is never happy. Give them a million dollars tax free and they will ***** that you gave it them in twenties.

Oh, they're Kinda like Tech, right ?:odie:

If Hawaii can find a home for the other sports, they will have no trouble completing a football schedule.

I think Hawaii will be gone sooner than later...they might wait until the WAC can get another school to upgrade so the WAC won't lose its FBS status, but ultimately BIG West/Indy in Football seems to be what they want

Denver video on why they joined the WAC:

http://www.denverpioneers.com/newMediaPl...emid=18600

This year the MAC is better than the SBC. Only OOC wins are Bowling Green, UAB, Southeastern Louisiana, and Austin Peay... nm.

(11-11-2010 01:37 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  The new WAC and their current standings. At least their records will improve with the changes.

Hawaii 5-1 7-3
Louisiana Tech 2-3 3-6
Idaho 1-3 4-5
Utah State 1-4 3-6
New Mexico State 1-4 2-7
San Jose State 0-4 1-8
Texas State 1-4 4-5
UTSA

Is this something like Big West Conference football Part II?

(11-12-2010 03:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If Hawaii can find a home for the other sports, they will have no trouble completing a football schedule.

That is the issue. The other sports. Football is easy. Play on the island - get an additional game.

Teams like USC, Notre Dame, or BYU who sell out thier stadium on a regular basis can offset the cost of the trip.

Sending the womens volleyball team, etc gets expensive.

Hawaii can be ticked, but where would they go? Big East? Why not? I'm surprised that the Big Least hasn't recruited teams from China yet. Hawaii would be closer.