Why would any of them spend the time and money to go FBS with the Super-conferences looming out there? I'm concerned that most if not all of the SBC will be forced to go back down to FCS or play in some sort of FBS lite if that happens. If there are only 4 thats only 64 teams. I don't see any of us making the cut. Heck not all the current AQ schools would fit. If it's 5(80 teams) of few of us might make it but I doubt any of the transitional schools would make the cut. There will still be 40 teams left out not including anyone that makes the jump up. Just seems like a waste at this point. So why does it seem like so many are preparing for the jump?

Not a chance and here's why.

Non AQ teams are buy games that get a bunch of AQ teams bowl eligible.

A lot of AQ programs not named Florida would scream bloody murder over that.

(08-26-2010 05:34 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  Not a chance and here's why.

Non AQ teams are buy games that get a bunch of AQ teams bowl eligible.

A lot of AQ programs not named Florida would scream bloody murder over that.

Most Super conf models i see revolve around a play off so i don't think bowl eligibility is a factor.

(08-26-2010 06:27 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(08-26-2010 05:34 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  Not a chance and here's why.

Non AQ teams are buy games that get a bunch of AQ teams bowl eligible.

A lot of AQ programs not named Florida would scream bloody murder over that.

Most Super conf models i see revolve around a play off so i don't think bowl eligibility is a factor.

forcing some 40 teams down to FCS or FBS light would result in lawsuits up the yin-yang, you can't sweep 40 angry teams under the rug and forget about them, they would all rebel and fight... so I don't think so.

I don't know if they would sweep 40 under the rug at one time, but they'd probably try and pick us off, one by one.

It's already happening - anyone want to bet against 2015 seeing Idaho as FCS and SJSU as having dropped football?

They don't have to exclude us if they simply make it impossible to compete. That said, we as programs need to keep taking steps forward and growing. It'd would be hard to ignore a school that averages 30k in attendance and goes to bowls fairly often.

(08-26-2010 07:37 AM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  I don't know if they would sweep 40 under the rug at one time, but they'd probably try and pick us off, one by one.

It's already happening - anyone want to bet against 2015 seeing Idaho as FCS and SJSU as having dropped football?

They don't have to exclude us if they simply make it impossible to compete. That said, we as programs need to keep taking steps forward and growing. It'd would be hard to ignore a school that averages 30k in attendance and goes to bowls fairly often.

The big boys aren't making times hard for SJSU and Idaho. Another mid-major conference is doing it. SJSU was in danger of going back to FCS before all this happened. If Belt schools stick together , then it would be hard to push a whole conference down to FCS.

The NCAA has an atrocious track record in anti-trust litigation.

Pushing people out runs risk and if you can prove it is to deny access to the opportunity to make more money and compete for revenue, you are in the redline.

Standards like attendance and stadium size are suspect criteria as it is. It is somewhat easier to make it hard to move up than it is to force people out.

When the Florida's and Alabama's of the world have to play a full slate of similar opponents, the fans won't be happy with a 6-7 wn season.

(08-26-2010 03:49 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  Why would any of them spend the time and money to go FBS with the Super-conferences looming out there? I'm concerned that most if not all of the SBC will be forced to go back down to FCS or play in some sort of FBS lite if that happens. If there are only 4 thats only 64 teams. I don't see any of us making the cut. Heck not all the current AQ schools would fit. If it's 5(80 teams) of few of us might make it but I doubt any of the transitional schools would make the cut. There will still be 40 teams left out not including anyone that makes the jump up. Just seems like a waste at this point. So why does it seem like so many are preparing for the jump?

I don't think the "Super Conferences" are such a sure thing anymore. The Media doesn't want them, and they control the money.....

Not saying that they won't happen, but with the media against them, they are far from the sure thing that they seemed like a few months ago.

Playing in a super conference makes it harder to win a championship. Does anybody think Texas, Alabama and Florida want to play in a super conference?

(08-26-2010 08:38 AM)SM_Bobcat Wrote:  

(08-26-2010 03:49 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  Why would any of them spend the time and money to go FBS with the Super-conferences looming out there? I'm concerned that most if not all of the SBC will be forced to go back down to FCS or play in some sort of FBS lite if that happens. If there are only 4 thats only 64 teams. I don't see any of us making the cut. Heck not all the current AQ schools would fit. If it's 5(80 teams) of few of us might make it but I doubt any of the transitional schools would make the cut. There will still be 40 teams left out not including anyone that makes the jump up. Just seems like a waste at this point. So why does it seem like so many are preparing for the jump?

I don't think the "Super Conferences" are such a sure thing anymore. The Media doesn't want them, and they control the money.....

Not saying that they won't happen, but with the media against them, they are far from the sure thing that they seemed like a few months ago.

Another hit against the "super conferences" is Texas getting its own TV deal... the other big name teams are going to soon want the same (if it succeeds)... and then who needs particular conference.

(08-26-2010 08:52 AM)NCowl Wrote:  

(08-26-2010 08:38 AM)SM_Bobcat Wrote:  

(08-26-2010 03:49 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  Why would any of them spend the time and money to go FBS with the Super-conferences looming out there? I'm concerned that most if not all of the SBC will be forced to go back down to FCS or play in some sort of FBS lite if that happens. If there are only 4 thats only 64 teams. I don't see any of us making the cut. Heck not all the current AQ schools would fit. If it's 5(80 teams) of few of us might make it but I doubt any of the transitional schools would make the cut. There will still be 40 teams left out not including anyone that makes the jump up. Just seems like a waste at this point. So why does it seem like so many are preparing for the jump?

I don't think the "Super Conferences" are such a sure thing anymore. The Media doesn't want them, and they control the money.....

Not saying that they won't happen, but with the media against them, they are far from the sure thing that they seemed like a few months ago.

Another hit against the "super conferences" is Texas getting its own TV deal... the other big name teams are going to soon want the same (if it succeeds)... and then who needs particular conference.

EXACTLY. Which is why Notre Dame has not joined a conference and doesn't need to.

Another issue that this would bring up during litigation would be the 10's of millions of dollars many, many schools have spent getting their programs to a more competitive FBS status. For a governing body to throw that out the window would lead to a quick court date in a bunch of friendly jurisdictions.