Cajun4life, there is 0 chance of ULM dropping to 1-AA. We don't need you on this board saying that as it is NOT going to happen. As bluephi said, we aren't bottom dwellers as ULM is almost always in the top half of the conference standings.

(08-22-2010 10:03 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 09:49 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 09:07 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:07 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  If things fall apart and the WAC ends, don't you think that the SBC would take NMSU and La Tech back. Maybe you guys are overly hating on them. 12/14 conference title game. Heh you should offer Denver and UALR as compensation. Let the WAC be the hybrid conf. 4/2. I hope the WAC holds together though because you guys know I love conference movement and I'd like to see UTSA, Texas St., Sac St., Montana, UC Davis, Cal Poly in the FBS.

From what I have heard, ASU, UNT and Louisiana would vote no if the subject of La Tech to the Sunbelt were brought to the Belt presidents. The administration of La Tech has publicly spurned all belt schools but those mentioned are the ones who would hold them to their remarks. ASU, UNT and Louisiana would rather see the WAC survive and add 3 FCS schools or more. This would place the WAC below the Belt for a long time, once the big three leave the WAC it will be the worst conference in the country anyway.

I personally want La Tech to die on the vine, either in the WAC or as an independent. Tech going the Indy route would be best case scenario for Louisiana and ULM. The boycott by the Belt schools would continue and it would force Tech to continue their extreme travel without riding the coattails of Boise, Fresno, Nevada and Hawaii like they have for the last 5 years.

Karma is a ***** and they have a lot of bad karma coming their way.

So 3 no votes. ULM not one of them? How many need to say yes for an invite 9 or 8?

I believe the magic number of votes is 8. ULM would more than likely be a yes vote due to the fact that it would force Tech to recognize them and have to play home and home in all sports. ULM needs Tech in the Belt in order to stay a viable 1A program. There are numerous rumors within the state of Louisiana that ULM will move back down to 1AA due to the dire financial situation for higher ed in Louisiana. These rumors are from within the legislature and ULS board. We will see how true or untrue those rumors are. Hiring a new athletic friendly pres is essential for them to remain in 1A IMO.

(08-23-2010 09:56 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 07:29 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 01:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 01:49 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  "My fear is that now that the conference is weak so will our recruits. I find it funny how even you guys on your board say that in a few years of Tech being in the belt they will start losing quality recruits and be losing to Belt teams."

What Louisiana Tech didn't even have a better recruiting class than FIU last year. Now that it's in the Weakly Wac conference forget about it, just look at rivals 2010. FIU hasn't even done well, has only been around div. 1 football since 2004, and just got its stadium and weight room. Yet it still recruited better than louisiana tech.....Do you use any facts in you arguments or are they just illogical reasoning? Sun belt should take NMSU and leave louisiana tech to rot.

very simply put. Sunbelt=Troy MT and a bunch of sucky teams. New Wac= Hawaii, Idaho, Tech and a bunch of sucky teams. Not much difference. Not alot of words is that good enough for you? I would probably rather go the belt route but it wouldnt matter if we just stayed where we were. If more teams leave its not even a question. And please Arkansas St you are about as consistent as a bowel movement. You went to the coveted Lafayette bowl with a six win team. Name me the last time anyone besides Troy Mt or FAU has topped 6 wins in a regular season. I think you have to really reach. It would probably be N. Texas years ago.

I have stayed out of this, but it has gotten to the point to where you just need to shut up. You are making yourself look like an @ss with every post. You have no facts to back up anything you post. Please go post on the WAC board while there is still a WAC.

This guy is just not intelligent; when he looks in the mirror his best thought for the day is 'I see stupid people' . . .

truth is the truth. I see you arky st people on everybody's message board sticking your 2 cents in. Especially you womanzowolf, but the truth is yes you pull out a good win once in a while but then turn around and collapse. even ULM beats Alabama then turns around and lays an egg. Ull beats Kansas St then loses to FiU. No body in this conference knows how to step it up except MT and Troy. I know the truth hurts but if the WAc reforms they will be just as strong and I suspect will even be stronger than the belt. All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6. You guys have nobody to blame for your low totem pole rep but yourselves. I realize alot of it has to do with having to schedule body bag games but for god sake those are the games you seem to be winning but you still end up with losing seasons. I am tired of hearing how much the belt has changed. The belt hasn't changed one bit. You had one of your worst overall seasons last year since you started. Yes you were represented well by MT and Troy but that was it. And you guys say we ride the WAC coattail. At least twice we brought in bowl money and once got screwed.

(08-23-2010 10:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6.

You guys have had 4 'bowl eligible' seasons (3 winning seasons) since 2000....I'd be careful who you're calling bottom feeders.

(08-23-2010 10:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:56 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 07:29 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 01:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  

very simply put. Sunbelt=Troy MT and a bunch of sucky teams. New Wac= Hawaii, Idaho, Tech and a bunch of sucky teams. Not much difference. Not alot of words is that good enough for you? I would probably rather go the belt route but it wouldnt matter if we just stayed where we were. If more teams leave its not even a question. And please Arkansas St you are about as consistent as a bowel movement. You went to the coveted Lafayette bowl with a six win team. Name me the last time anyone besides Troy Mt or FAU has topped 6 wins in a regular season. I think you have to really reach. It would probably be N. Texas years ago.

I have stayed out of this, but it has gotten to the point to where you just need to shut up. You are making yourself look like an @ss with every post. You have no facts to back up anything you post. Please go post on the WAC board while there is still a WAC.

This guy is just not intelligent; when he looks in the mirror his best thought for the day is 'I see stupid people' . . .

truth is the truth. I see you arky st people on everybody's message board sticking your 2 cents in. Especially you womanzowolf, but the truth is yes you pull out a good win once in a while but then turn around and collapse. even ULM beats Alabama then turns around and lays an egg. Ull beats Kansas St then loses to FiU. No body in this conference knows how to step it up except MT and Troy. I know the truth hurts but if the WAc reforms they will be just as strong and I suspect will even be stronger than the belt. All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6. You guys have nobody to blame for your low totem pole rep but yourselves. I realize alot of it has to do with having to schedule body bag games but for god sake those are the games you seem to be winning but you still end up with losing seasons. I am tired of hearing how much the belt has changed. The belt hasn't changed one bit. You had one of your worst overall seasons last year since you started. Yes you were represented well by MT and Troy but that was it. And you guys say we ride the WAC coattail. At least twice we brought in bowl money and once got screwed.

IF the WAC survives, it will be because you added teams like Sacramento State, Cal Poly, UC Davis and Montana, plus Texas State. UTSA won't be ready for a few years. What kind of schedule is that? You won't average 10,000 at home playing these teams. The WAC won't have any bowl affiliations or tv revenue and nothing to offset the travel costs. Add to that SJSU who is on the verge of dropping football and Idaho who plays in a 16,000 seat stadium. You wanted separation. Well, that will give it to you. I just don't get how you think THAT will keep Tech in a better situation than the SunBelt.

(08-23-2010 09:58 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Cajun4life, there is 0 chance of ULM dropping to 1-AA. We don't need you on this board saying that as it is NOT going to happen. As bluephi said, we aren't bottom dwellers as ULM is almost always in the top half of the conference standings.

(08-22-2010 10:03 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 09:49 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 09:07 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:07 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  If things fall apart and the WAC ends, don't you think that the SBC would take NMSU and La Tech back. Maybe you guys are overly hating on them. 12/14 conference title game. Heh you should offer Denver and UALR as compensation. Let the WAC be the hybrid conf. 4/2. I hope the WAC holds together though because you guys know I love conference movement and I'd like to see UTSA, Texas St., Sac St., Montana, UC Davis, Cal Poly in the FBS.

From what I have heard, ASU, UNT and Louisiana would vote no if the subject of La Tech to the Sunbelt were brought to the Belt presidents. The administration of La Tech has publicly spurned all belt schools but those mentioned are the ones who would hold them to their remarks. ASU, UNT and Louisiana would rather see the WAC survive and add 3 FCS schools or more. This would place the WAC below the Belt for a long time, once the big three leave the WAC it will be the worst conference in the country anyway.

I personally want La Tech to die on the vine, either in the WAC or as an independent. Tech going the Indy route would be best case scenario for Louisiana and ULM. The boycott by the Belt schools would continue and it would force Tech to continue their extreme travel without riding the coattails of Boise, Fresno, Nevada and Hawaii like they have for the last 5 years.

Karma is a ***** and they have a lot of bad karma coming their way.

So 3 no votes. ULM not one of them? How many need to say yes for an invite 9 or 8?

I believe the magic number of votes is 8. ULM would more than likely be a yes vote due to the fact that it would force Tech to recognize them and have to play home and home in all sports. ULM needs Tech in the Belt in order to stay a viable 1A program. There are numerous rumors within the state of Louisiana that ULM will move back down to 1AA due to the dire financial situation for higher ed in Louisiana. These rumors are from within the legislature and ULS board. We will see how true or untrue those rumors are. Hiring a new athletic friendly pres is essential for them to remain in 1A IMO.

Cool your heels Elvis! Cajun4life stated "Tech going the Indy route would be best case scenario for Louisiana and ULM." And he did say "These rumors are from within the legislature and ULS board. We will see how true or untrue those rumors are." Clearly he didn't say they were a matter of fact. There is some middle ground here for both fan bases.

The way the WAC is talking on their board (i.e. who to invite). They are looking more and more like an FCS everyday.

Their core now includes Idaho, Utah St., NMSU and San Jose St. (Hawai'i is going indy).


Their potential invites, and here's where it gets hairy, are:

Sacramento St. - Big Sky
UC Davis - Great West (five team league)
UTSA - Never played football
Texas St. - Southland


If the MWC conference stands pat here and there's no opening in CUSA, the Sun Belt should be the #3 non-AQ in two years.

(08-23-2010 10:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:56 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 07:29 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 01:52 AM)panther viscosity Wrote:  

very simply put. Sunbelt=Troy MT and a bunch of sucky teams. New Wac= Hawaii, Idaho, Tech and a bunch of sucky teams. Not much difference. Not alot of words is that good enough for you? I would probably rather go the belt route but it wouldnt matter if we just stayed where we were. If more teams leave its not even a question. And please Arkansas St you are about as consistent as a bowel movement. You went to the coveted Lafayette bowl with a six win team. Name me the last time anyone besides Troy Mt or FAU has topped 6 wins in a regular season. I think you have to really reach. It would probably be N. Texas years ago.

I have stayed out of this, but it has gotten to the point to where you just need to shut up. You are making yourself look like an @ss with every post. You have no facts to back up anything you post. Please go post on the WAC board while there is still a WAC.

This guy is just not intelligent; when he looks in the mirror his best thought for the day is 'I see stupid people' . . .

truth is the truth. I see you arky st people on everybody's message board sticking your 2 cents in. Especially you womanzowolf, but the truth is yes you pull out a good win once in a while but then turn around and collapse. even ULM beats Alabama then turns around and lays an egg. Ull beats Kansas St then loses to FiU. No body in this conference knows how to step it up except MT and Troy. I know the truth hurts but if the WAc reforms they will be just as strong and I suspect will even be stronger than the belt. All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6. You guys have nobody to blame for your low totem pole rep but yourselves. I realize alot of it has to do with having to schedule body bag games but for god sake those are the games you seem to be winning but you still end up with losing seasons. I am tired of hearing how much the belt has changed. The belt hasn't changed one bit. You had one of your worst overall seasons last year since you started. Yes you were represented well by MT and Troy but that was it. And you guys say we ride the WAC coattail. At least twice we brought in bowl money and once got screwed.

The truth is the truth? Where is your truth? Also, how can someone from La Tech talk about teams in the SBC not stepping it up when La Tech has a history of failing to step it up?

(08-23-2010 02:44 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 10:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:56 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 07:29 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  very simply put. Sunbelt=Troy MT and a bunch of sucky teams. New Wac= Hawaii, Idaho, Tech and a bunch of sucky teams. Not much difference. Not alot of words is that good enough for you? I would probably rather go the belt route but it wouldnt matter if we just stayed where we were. If more teams leave its not even a question. And please Arkansas St you are about as consistent as a bowel movement. You went to the coveted Lafayette bowl with a six win team. Name me the last time anyone besides Troy Mt or FAU has topped 6 wins in a regular season. I think you have to really reach. It would probably be N. Texas years ago.

I have stayed out of this, but it has gotten to the point to where you just need to shut up. You are making yourself look like an @ss with every post. You have no facts to back up anything you post. Please go post on the WAC board while there is still a WAC.

This guy is just not intelligent; when he looks in the mirror his best thought for the day is 'I see stupid people' . . .

truth is the truth. I see you arky st people on everybody's message board sticking your 2 cents in. Especially you womanzowolf, but the truth is yes you pull out a good win once in a while but then turn around and collapse. even ULM beats Alabama then turns around and lays an egg. Ull beats Kansas St then loses to FiU. No body in this conference knows how to step it up except MT and Troy. I know the truth hurts but if the WAc reforms they will be just as strong and I suspect will even be stronger than the belt. All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6. You guys have nobody to blame for your low totem pole rep but yourselves. I realize alot of it has to do with having to schedule body bag games but for god sake those are the games you seem to be winning but you still end up with losing seasons. I am tired of hearing how much the belt has changed. The belt hasn't changed one bit. You had one of your worst overall seasons last year since you started. Yes you were represented well by MT and Troy but that was it. And you guys say we ride the WAC coattail. At least twice we brought in bowl money and once got screwed.

The truth is the truth? Where is your truth? Also, how can someone from La Tech talk about teams in the SBC not stepping it up when La Tech has a history of failing to step it up?

The truth is LaTech is nothing more then a cross dresser masquerading as a Vegas Showgirl! Ugly as hell without the makeup and looks much better in the dark, or should I say in Ruston.

I never said that ULM were bottom dwellers, what I am saying is that both ULM and La Tech have been taking money from your academic foundation plus money that is allowed from the general fund. You guys have yet to hire a university president, your football hire pays less than your outgoing coach, ULM does not have the financial backing to last much longer IMO.

Do I think ULM will voluntarily drop down to 1AA, no I don't but you never know what will happen with a new pres and a horrible financial climate.

(08-23-2010 09:58 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Cajun4life, there is 0 chance of ULM dropping to 1-AA. We don't need you on this board saying that as it is NOT going to happen. As bluephi said, we aren't bottom dwellers as ULM is almost always in the top half of the conference standings.

(08-22-2010 10:03 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 09:49 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 09:07 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(08-22-2010 07:07 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  If things fall apart and the WAC ends, don't you think that the SBC would take NMSU and La Tech back. Maybe you guys are overly hating on them. 12/14 conference title game. Heh you should offer Denver and UALR as compensation. Let the WAC be the hybrid conf. 4/2. I hope the WAC holds together though because you guys know I love conference movement and I'd like to see UTSA, Texas St., Sac St., Montana, UC Davis, Cal Poly in the FBS.

From what I have heard, ASU, UNT and Louisiana would vote no if the subject of La Tech to the Sunbelt were brought to the Belt presidents. The administration of La Tech has publicly spurned all belt schools but those mentioned are the ones who would hold them to their remarks. ASU, UNT and Louisiana would rather see the WAC survive and add 3 FCS schools or more. This would place the WAC below the Belt for a long time, once the big three leave the WAC it will be the worst conference in the country anyway.

I personally want La Tech to die on the vine, either in the WAC or as an independent. Tech going the Indy route would be best case scenario for Louisiana and ULM. The boycott by the Belt schools would continue and it would force Tech to continue their extreme travel without riding the coattails of Boise, Fresno, Nevada and Hawaii like they have for the last 5 years.

Karma is a ***** and they have a lot of bad karma coming their way.

So 3 no votes. ULM not one of them? How many need to say yes for an invite 9 or 8?

I believe the magic number of votes is 8. ULM would more than likely be a yes vote due to the fact that it would force Tech to recognize them and have to play home and home in all sports. ULM needs Tech in the Belt in order to stay a viable 1A program. There are numerous rumors within the state of Louisiana that ULM will move back down to 1AA due to the dire financial situation for higher ed in Louisiana. These rumors are from within the legislature and ULS board. We will see how true or untrue those rumors are. Hiring a new athletic friendly pres is essential for them to remain in 1A IMO.

(08-23-2010 03:03 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 02:44 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 10:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:56 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  I have stayed out of this, but it has gotten to the point to where you just need to shut up. You are making yourself look like an @ss with every post. You have no facts to back up anything you post. Please go post on the WAC board while there is still a WAC.

This guy is just not intelligent; when he looks in the mirror his best thought for the day is 'I see stupid people' . . .

truth is the truth. I see you arky st people on everybody's message board sticking your 2 cents in. Especially you womanzowolf, but the truth is yes you pull out a good win once in a while but then turn around and collapse. even ULM beats Alabama then turns around and lays an egg. Ull beats Kansas St then loses to FiU. No body in this conference knows how to step it up except MT and Troy. I know the truth hurts but if the WAc reforms they will be just as strong and I suspect will even be stronger than the belt. All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6. You guys have nobody to blame for your low totem pole rep but yourselves. I realize alot of it has to do with having to schedule body bag games but for god sake those are the games you seem to be winning but you still end up with losing seasons. I am tired of hearing how much the belt has changed. The belt hasn't changed one bit. You had one of your worst overall seasons last year since you started. Yes you were represented well by MT and Troy but that was it. And you guys say we ride the WAC coattail. At least twice we brought in bowl money and once got screwed.

The truth is the truth? Where is your truth? Also, how can someone from La Tech talk about teams in the SBC not stepping it up when La Tech has a history of failing to step it up?

The truth is LaTech is nothing more then a cross dresser masquerading as a Vegas Showgirl! Ugly as hell without the makeup and looks much better in the dark, or should I say in Ruston.

Cajun T I would classify La Tech as a double bagger. You know the girls you put a bag over there head and then a bag over your head just in case the one they are wearing falls off.

ATLdawg, you're fighting a losing battle brother. I don't think anyone here agrees with you on any of your points. Of course, you ARE insulting the Sun Belt Conference, and this IS the Sun Belt message board.

Here's my take on the whole situation. The WAC, as it stands now, is a weaker Conference than the Belt. However, even if both Conferences were equal, Tech to the Sun Belt would make a lot more sense. Saves on travel expenses, provides regional rivalries, and you have access to two bowls within driving distance.

(08-23-2010 08:49 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 08:18 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  Now why would you go and do that? Posting all these facts instead of biased opinion?

You're dropping the ball.

:Iagree:

How DARE you use facts to prove a LA Tech poster is full of

no why would you post those facts when you only managed to prove my point. When have you guys ever posted more than 6 wins. Wow you just listed a bunch of mediocre to bad seasons without any break through ones. Now lets get all the other teams to list their last ten years and I am pretty sure you are going to get the same result. Only MT Troy FAU and a long time ago NT has hit 7 wins. that is just sad. no it's pathetic. In the eight years in the Wac we have produced three winning seasons in a conference that was percieved to be a much harder conference to win in. Hell we even won it our first year there. Would it kill you guys to once in a while contribute something to Sunbelt football.

ATLdawg, I know you are giving due respect to my Trojans, but your posts are getting old...again.

We all know that the bottom of our Conference sucks. However, your Bulldogs are more than likely going to petition for readmission, so it would behuve you to watch what you say, you may have to eat your words later on.

(08-23-2010 06:05 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 08:49 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 08:18 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  Now why would you go and do that? Posting all these facts instead of biased opinion?

You're dropping the ball.

:Iagree:

How DARE you use facts to prove a LA Tech poster is full of

no why would you post those facts when you only managed to prove my point. When have you guys ever posted more than 6 wins. Wow you just listed a bunch of mediocre to bad seasons without any break through ones. Now lets get all the other teams to list their last ten years and I am pretty sure you are going to get the same result. Only MT Troy FAU and a long time ago NT has hit 7 wins. that is just sad. no it's pathetic. In the eight years in the Wac we have produced three winning seasons in a conference that was percieved to be a much harder conference to win in. Hell we even won it our first year there. Would it kill you guys to once in a while contribute something to Sunbelt football.

You may want to think about what the SBC and WAC will look like in 5 years as opposed to what they looked like 5 years ago. This may change your point of view.

(08-23-2010 06:05 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 08:49 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 08:18 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  Now why would you go and do that? Posting all these facts instead of biased opinion?

You're dropping the ball.

:Iagree:

How DARE you use facts to prove a LA Tech poster is full of

no why would you post those facts when you only managed to prove my point. When have you guys ever posted more than 6 wins. Wow you just listed a bunch of mediocre to bad seasons without any break through ones. Now lets get all the other teams to list their last ten years and I am pretty sure you are going to get the same result. Only MT Troy FAU and a long time ago NT has hit 7 wins. that is just sad. no it's pathetic. In the eight years in the Wac we have produced three winning seasons in a conference that was percieved to be a much harder conference to win in. Hell we even won it our first year there. Would it kill you guys to once in a while contribute something to Sunbelt football.

I don't have to watch what I say or eat words. I actually said I would prefer to be in the belt than a weakened WAC. The arguement was simple. Choose to stay in one sucky conference or move over to another one. Either way its no step up. I have just never seen a conference like the belt who has so many teams never step up. Someone mentioned Idaho. Guess what they just had a bowl win and an 8 win season. I am sure if Tech ends up in the belt it will be alot of fun but you guys act like we should be honored to step into this much improved conference. It's not much improved. And I am not just giving props to Troy. facts are facts. As much as I hate MT fans, there is no denying that their football teams are getting much better and Troy has just been plain consistently good, but the reason the belt can't get any respect is because nobody else is good.

(08-23-2010 02:44 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 10:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:56 AM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 09:08 AM)statefanatic Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 07:29 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  very simply put. Sunbelt=Troy MT and a bunch of sucky teams. New Wac= Hawaii, Idaho, Tech and a bunch of sucky teams. Not much difference. Not alot of words is that good enough for you? I would probably rather go the belt route but it wouldnt matter if we just stayed where we were. If more teams leave its not even a question. And please Arkansas St you are about as consistent as a bowel movement. You went to the coveted Lafayette bowl with a six win team. Name me the last time anyone besides Troy Mt or FAU has topped 6 wins in a regular season. I think you have to really reach. It would probably be N. Texas years ago.

I have stayed out of this, but it has gotten to the point to where you just need to shut up. You are making yourself look like an @ss with every post. You have no facts to back up anything you post. Please go post on the WAC board while there is still a WAC.

This guy is just not intelligent; when he looks in the mirror his best thought for the day is 'I see stupid people' . . .

truth is the truth. I see you arky st people on everybody's message board sticking your 2 cents in. Especially you womanzowolf, but the truth is yes you pull out a good win once in a while but then turn around and collapse. even ULM beats Alabama then turns around and lays an egg. Ull beats Kansas St then loses to FiU. No body in this conference knows how to step it up except MT and Troy. I know the truth hurts but if the WAc reforms they will be just as strong and I suspect will even be stronger than the belt. All of you massive bottom feeders in the conference have been allowing 2 maybe 3 teams carry you the whole time and its just pathetic. That is the reason you are looked so low upon and no other reason. Try at least once in a while having a break out season. You say Tech has had only one bowl year but in the last ten years we have had one 8 win team not get a bowl and one 7 win team not get a bowl. We have produced winning teams. All you guys seem to do is whine when your .500 team gets left out of bowls. Try winning just even one more game for god sake. I mean how sad is it that your conference champ had to get an exemption to get into a bowl because they were 5-6. You guys have nobody to blame for your low totem pole rep but yourselves. I realize alot of it has to do with having to schedule body bag games but for god sake those are the games you seem to be winning but you still end up with losing seasons. I am tired of hearing how much the belt has changed. The belt hasn't changed one bit. You had one of your worst overall seasons last year since you started. Yes you were represented well by MT and Troy but that was it. And you guys say we ride the WAC coattail. At least twice we brought in bowl money and once got screwed.

The truth is the truth? Where is your truth? Also, how can someone from La Tech talk about teams in the SBC not stepping it up when La Tech has a history of failing to step it up?

not step it up. we one the conference in our first year and posted two more winning seasons. we are not always great but for god sake we post winning seasons once in a while. you guys have posted nothing. absolutely nothing. MT Troy sometimes FAU. post the records over the last ten years or years in the belt from all the other teams. go ahead I dare you. You should hang your heads in shame. The same three teams are carrying you every single year. teams in the current WAC that have been to bowls. Everyone but New Mexico St and Utah St. 2. In either conference we end up in, if Tech doesnt end up with 7 or more wins I will then eat my words. Tech would have had 8 wins last year if it played a belt schedule.

(08-23-2010 06:57 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Fresno, read yesterday in one of the Utah papers where an ass't AD who does football scheduling at Notre Dame said that if BYU goes indy that he'd like to do a long-term deal for games in November.

I know one rumor floating was USU for all-sports, BYU everything but football and Hawaii for football only.

I don't see UTEP wanting in MWC unless Houston joins. They have big alumni bases in DFW and Houston. If the Coogs stay CUSA, UTEP will stay so they get the SMU/Rice/Houston games. If Houston were to leave then I think they'd prefer TCU/Houston over SMU/Rice plus having some closer games in the west.

A month ago I don't believe Houston would have accepted an MWC invite with BYU out, if the CUSA TV contract is going as bad as rumored, Houston may be chomping to get in.

After wading through all the "your school sucks" - "no your school sucks" crap.

Got some close friends in Houston. They are fairly well connected at Univ of Houston. Amazing what throwing some money at the school can get you.

They are being told BYU is staying in the MWC. The have also been told that MWC is going to extend an invitation to UH due to the Comcast factor. They are being told that it all comes down to televisions at this point. Hawaii will not get several votes due to the travel for the olympic sports and USU will not get the votes due to the Houston TV market.

Might be very interesting over the next several days.

(08-23-2010 03:41 PM)cajun4life Wrote:  I never said that ULM were bottom dwellers, what I am saying is that both ULM and La Tech have been taking money from your academic foundation plus money that is allowed from the general fund.

And ULL takes millions from the general fund. Who doesn't in Louisiana? UNO that's who....they chose to drop scholarship sports rather than to maintain the subsidy.
Everybody is going to have to get self sufficient in the next few years. You know the legislature is going to hawk that sooner rather than later....and it's not something that is going away because La's economy is not that bad and tax revenues are not going up and oil prices are stable. A good TV deal and other conference revenues will help, of course.

what's the difference in the WAC and Sun Belt? All the teams who carry the WAC are gone now. The Belt is stable and constantly improving, which is exactly what the youngest BCS football conference SHOULD be doing.

(08-23-2010 07:38 PM)dchi72 Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 06:57 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Fresno, read yesterday in one of the Utah papers where an ass't AD who does football scheduling at Notre Dame said that if BYU goes indy that he'd like to do a long-term deal for games in November.

I know one rumor floating was USU for all-sports, BYU everything but football and Hawaii for football only.

I don't see UTEP wanting in MWC unless Houston joins. They have big alumni bases in DFW and Houston. If the Coogs stay CUSA, UTEP will stay so they get the SMU/Rice/Houston games. If Houston were to leave then I think they'd prefer TCU/Houston over SMU/Rice plus having some closer games in the west.

A month ago I don't believe Houston would have accepted an MWC invite with BYU out, if the CUSA TV contract is going as bad as rumored, Houston may be chomping to get in.

After wading through all the "your school sucks" - "no your school sucks" crap.

Got some close friends in Houston. They are fairly well connected at Univ of Houston. Amazing what throwing some money at the school can get you.

They are being told BYU is staying in the MWC. The have also been told that MWC is going to extend an invitation to UH due to the Comcast factor. They are being told that it all comes down to televisions at this point. Hawaii will not get several votes due to the travel for the olympic sports and USU will not get the votes due to the Houston TV market.

Might be very interesting over the next several days.

Guess we owe everyone an apology for taking this "off-topic". I wasn't aware Comcast had any notable presence in Texas. The thing about travel is divisions do help alleviate some of the problem.