(05-20-2010 12:52 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Moving this to smack. No holds barred but please no more comments on posters immautuity or charecter. That is the ONE thing not allowed over there.

Call Blakney everything under the sun, and insist that Stockskill is worse then Hitler if you want but leave the personal stuff out of it.

Is this not a double standard? If the rule applies to one it must apply to all.

Then they should be pimped slapped for not doing there jobs and reading the mindless drivel that is college football boards during the offseason.

BTW if you guys sign that QB out of Georgia, I understand that Troy AD has decided to go with new uniforms for next year.

(05-20-2010 12:35 PM)kmf2h Wrote:  How is it immature to be upset that amateur players have to adhere to a ton of rules but the professional coaches courting them don't? I dislike oversigning because you're basically willing to completely screw over some kids. If all of the sign-and-place kids qualify, some won't get scholarships and the staffs of these schools are okay with that. Some kids will be left out to dry and the school will move on and be just fine. You're right. I guess that is morality played out in the real world.

This is likely the last I'll address this issue as the Kool Aid has been served in Troy far too long for reason to come creeping in now.

Your problem has more to do with Troy's success using the practice than the principal itself.

(05-20-2010 01:12 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Then they should be pimped slapped for not doing there jobs and reading the mindless drivel that is college football boards during the offseason.

BTW if you guys sign that QB out of Georgia, I understand that Troy AD has decided to go with new uniforms for next year.

Even if our offense is chained together they can score 45 on FAU.

(05-20-2010 11:36 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(05-20-2010 11:20 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(05-20-2010 11:05 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  The difference between MT and Troy is not the fact that we both have players that get out of hand and do stupid things sometimes along with every other football team in America. The difference is that MT removes them from the team while Troy lets them stay and actively recruits other teams rejects. That is the difference.

hahahaha, whatever you say man. Like you said, every team has problematic players, kids are dumb and make dumb decisions. the REAL difference in our programs is that Larry Blakeney takes these kids, teaches them how to be men, and helps them get an education rather than giving up on them and casting them aside to continue down a destructive path.

You look at it one way, I look at it another. A kid makes a mistake at Middle and Stock tosses them away. Kid makes a mistake at Troy and Larry does his best to help the kid turn his life around. Mighty big of your coach and University to say, "sorry bud but you are a bad person and you should just give up and accept that."

I do NOT condone allowing these kids to continue causing trouble, but to give up on someone who obviously NEEDS guidance after one bad decision is not a Christian way of doing things. If you're not a Christian then that obviously doesnt matter to you, but for those of us who are, we follow God's book. If you can take a young man who has done wrong, bring him in and help him become a Man, then you have done something truely respectable. If they continue to go on without changing then yes, you must cut the cord. Larry will do this if necessary, but he doesn't give up on kids right off the bat. Blakeney is a mentor and a father figure for these kids. Faulting him for that is just sad.

They are not kids they are at least 18 years of age which makes them adults. They can distinguish between right and wrong. I grow tired of so many people calling 18 to 24 year olds "kids".

Stockstill has rules and expects them to be followed. If they are broken their will be "real" consequences. He treats them like adults as they should be treated. Not like little kids. In the real world your employer will have rules that they expect to be followed. If you cant follow them, then most likely you will be shown the door. In that way, Stockstill is preparing them for life far more than Blakeney giving players chance after chance after chance to do the right thing.[/b]

Do you honestly believe this? A number doesn't determine one's mental state.

(05-20-2010 01:11 PM)troyw Wrote:  Is this not a double standard? If the rule applies to one it must apply to all.

As public figures they are often lampooned or villified on message boards. I remember more then a few Vehment posts on the Troy board about Blakney after the loss to bowling green.

(05-20-2010 01:12 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Then they should be pimped slapped for not doing there jobs and reading the mindless drivel that is college football boards during the offseason.

BTW if you guys sign that QB out of Georgia, I understand that Troy AD has decided to go with new uniforms for next year.

Definitely not taken in South Florida - all those guys look like they can speak english.

(05-20-2010 01:16 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(05-20-2010 01:11 PM)troyw Wrote:  Is this not a double standard? If the rule applies to one it must apply to all.

As public figures they are often lampooned or villified on message boards. I remember more then a few Vehment posts on the Troy board about Blakney after the loss to bowling green.

That's another board with another set of rules.

The act of questioning someone on their character has plenty of merit if that person is doing the same to another.

(05-20-2010 12:50 PM)kmf2h Wrote:  I don't feel the need to defend myself from anonymous Trojan trolls who worship Blakeney but want to judge me. That's why I ignored it. Feel free to come follow me around for a day or so and then we can discuss my character.

i am a moderator here, how the heck can i also be a troll?

(05-20-2010 03:21 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(05-20-2010 12:50 PM)kmf2h Wrote:  I don't feel the need to defend myself from anonymous Trojan trolls who worship Blakeney but want to judge me. That's why I ignored it. Feel free to come follow me around for a day or so and then we can discuss my character.

i am a moderator here, how the heck can i also be a troll?

He got called out on his game and he had nothing to back it up. At least he didn't get mad on here like he did his home board.

eh, new guy gets his panties in a whad, nothing new. i guess he doesnt understand that this is a Sun Belt board, and as such, Troy fans post here. you see, in order to be a "troll" you must be "lurking" on someone else's board. seeing as how we OWN the Sun Belt, i guess we could say we OWN this board...which would make HIM the troll.

I wonder if any MT players were arrested today?

(05-21-2010 08:51 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  I wonder if any MT players were arrested today?

watch it Hemi, i feel a "Keep it down home, cuz" comin'.

(05-20-2010 12:35 PM)kmf2h Wrote:  I dislike oversigning because you're basically willing to completely screw over some kids. If all of the sign-and-place kids qualify, some won't get scholarships and the staffs of these schools are okay with that.

(05-20-2010 12:47 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Reality is a tough pill for you to swallow. To the best of my knowledge every player that Troy has signed and placed either ended up at Troy with a scholarship or decided to sign somewhere else.

I rarely get into these arguments, but I'm pretty sure Hemiman's right about this. Your qualm with the process is that soneone could get fµcked over in the process. In the years and years that Troy has oversigned, it's never happened. So I fail to see anything immoral about it. Fill me in, kmf2h, would you?

Troy Never Falls Short

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/wr...index.html[/size]

Quote:Blakeney is a master mathematician when it comes to juggling scholarships. No coach in America has signed more players in the past five years. Between 2005-09, Blakeney and his staff signed 162 players (average: 32.4).

Quote:"If you ever balk on one, you won't have many more opportunities," Troy coach Larry Blakeney said. "We've never fallen short. We've never not had a scholarship."

Quote:Blakeney doesn't apologize for the numbers; in fact, he believes his method of signing has allowed access to a college education for some players other schools wouldn't touch because of their grades and test scores. The practice also has helped Blakeney field a quality team. Troy won outright Sun Belt Conference titles in 2006 and 2008 and shared the title in 2007.

you're not going to get a response out of the Middle fans who have been bashing Larry for this so far. this statement says it all and cannot be argued...Larry is helping these kids.

Quote:Blakeney doesn't apologize for the numbers; in fact, he believes his method of signing has allowed access to a college education for some players other schools wouldn't touch because of their grades and test scores. The practice also has helped Blakeney field a quality team. Troy won outright Sun Belt Conference titles in 2006 and 2008 and shared the title in 2007.

the MUTS fans who have been slamming him are just jealous of our success and need something to blame it on.