Political Panic in Poland

Polish politicians scramble to regroup after president, his wife, and other leaders die in jet crash that left no survivors

April 10, 2010

Polish Lawmakers Regroup After President's Death in Crash

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A government spokesman said a presidential election was to be scheduled to find a replacement to Lech Kaczynski, as the Polish government was scheduled to hold an emergency meeting in Warsaw early Saturday afternoon.



The deaths of the Polish president, army chief of staff, national bank president, deputy foreign minister and some of the country's highest military and civilian leaders in a tragic plane crash have changed the political landscape of Poland.

President Lech Kaczynski was leading a delegation of 88 people on Saturday to an event marking the 70th anniversary of the massacre of thousands of Polish officers by Soviet secret police, when their plane went down in Russia.

A government spokesman told Reuters on Saturday that a presidential election was to be scheduled to find a replacement for Kaczynski, as the Polish government was scheduled to hold an emergency meeting in Warsaw early Saturday afternoon. The Polish constitution says the election date must be announced within two weeks and the election must take place within two months of the announcement.

Bronislaw Komorowski, head of the Polish lower house, is expected to take over presidential duties. His office announced he was on his way to Warsaw Saturday.

Komorowski, a 57-year-old former anti-communist dissident from an aristocratic family, was the official candidate of the liberal Civic Platform (PO). Opinion polls had suggested Komorowski, Prime Minister Donald Tusk's centrist candidate, may have won the next presidential race against Kaczynski.



Polish President Lech Kaczynski and some of the country's highest military, civilian leaders are among 96 killed after plane crashes while landing in Russia.

During Kaczynski's presidency, he pursued a strongly pro-U.S. foreign policy, in accordance with a cross-party consensus that has grown in Poland since the fall of communism. He was an enthusiastic backer of plans to build a U.S. missile defense facility in the country, the largest of the European Union's new eastern members.

Poland's former president, Lech Walesa, said the death of Kaczynski and the other passengers on the plane was "an inconceivable tragedy."

"Jesus, Holy Mary, it's an inconceivable tragedy, an inconceivable disaster," he cried after learning Kaczynski died during the crash.

Jacek Wasilewski of the Warsaw's Higher School of Social Psychology said the president's death will "have a huge impact on the elections."

"The political consequences will be long term and possibly will change the entire future landscape of Polish politics," Wasilewski told Reuters.

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Poland Mourns President Killed in Plane Crash
Besides the presidential couple, all other people on board the plane reportedly died, including the country's army chief, its deputy foreign minister, the Central Bank governor and scores of other officials, legislators and crew members.

Should always be suspicious when Russia is involved.

(04-10-2010 01:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Should always be suspicious when Russia is involved.

Dude, you really need to move into modern times and leave the cold war behind you.

(04-10-2010 02:01 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 01:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Should always be suspicious when Russia is involved.

Dude, you really need to move into modern times and leave the cold war behind you.

Dude, you really need to quite being so naive.

(04-10-2010 02:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 02:01 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 01:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Should always be suspicious when Russia is involved.

Dude, you really need to move into modern times and leave the cold war behind you.

Dude, you really need to quite being so naive.

TCDD dioxin poisoning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish...-154_crash

Sounds like pilot error to me although at the same time, you'd want to believe that the pilot would be one of Poland's best and would have known better? I find it hard to believe so many important officials would be flying on a 20-year-old plane for a ceremony (albeit an important one to that country).

Joe Biden wants to represent the United States for any ceremonies in Poland because he has a number of Polish jokes he'd like to test out. Seriously, Obama himself needs to represent the USA this time around. This is a horrible tragedy and the USA needs to show its deepest respect. I'd send a former president or two as well if we can.

(04-10-2010 06:15 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish...-154_crash

Sounds like pilot error to me although at the same time, you'd want to believe that the pilot would be one of Poland's best and would have known better? I find it hard to believe so many important officials would be flying on a 20-year-old plane for a ceremony (albeit an important one to that country).

Joe Biden wants to represent the United States for any ceremonies in Poland because he has a number of Polish jokes he'd like to test out. Seriously, Obama himself needs to represent the USA this time around. This is a horrible tragedy and the USA needs to show its deepest respect. I'd send a former president or two as well if we can.

I don't think any nation in modern history can relate to a tragedy of this magnitude.

(04-10-2010 07:39 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 06:15 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish...-154_crash

Sounds like pilot error to me although at the same time, you'd want to believe that the pilot would be one of Poland's best and would have known better? I find it hard to believe so many important officials would be flying on a 20-year-old plane for a ceremony (albeit an important one to that country).

Joe Biden wants to represent the United States for any ceremonies in Poland because he has a number of Polish jokes he'd like to test out. Seriously, Obama himself needs to represent the USA this time around. This is a horrible tragedy and the USA needs to show its deepest respect. I'd send a former president or two as well if we can.

I don't think any nation in modern history can relate to a tragedy of this magnitude.

Rule #1-- Dont put all of your eggs in one basket or all your political and military leaders in one airplane.

This could be a Russian operation. Take out the military and political leadership of a NATO Member that has offered to base anti-ballistic missiles on their territory.

The Russians were behind the unrest in Kyrgyzstan earlier this week that has shut down the US Airbase at Manus, which is critical for Afghanistan operations.

Its almost too good of an opportunity to pass up--after all a crash in their territory where they control the crash scene, what happens to the Black Box, etc.

(04-11-2010 08:08 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 07:39 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(04-10-2010 06:15 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish...-154_crash

Sounds like pilot error to me although at the same time, you'd want to believe that the pilot would be one of Poland's best and would have known better? I find it hard to believe so many important officials would be flying on a 20-year-old plane for a ceremony (albeit an important one to that country).

Joe Biden wants to represent the United States for any ceremonies in Poland because he has a number of Polish jokes he'd like to test out. Seriously, Obama himself needs to represent the USA this time around. This is a horrible tragedy and the USA needs to show its deepest respect. I'd send a former president or two as well if we can.

I don't think any nation in modern history can relate to a tragedy of this magnitude.

Rule #1-- Dont put all of your eggs in one basket or all your political and military leaders in one airplane.

This could be a Russian operation. Take out the military and political leadership of a NATO Member that has offered to base anti-ballistic missiles on their territory.

The Russians were behind the unrest in Kyrgyzstan earlier this week that has shut down the US Airbase at Manus, which is critical for Afghanistan operations.

Its almost too good of an opportunity to pass up--after all a crash in their territory where they control the crash scene, what happens to the Black Box, etc.

I think I read that Putin was to be in charge of the investigation, so we can be assured of a through investigation.

If you are right and this is a move against NATO, with the US will be sleepy submissive, Obama's weakness is costing people's lives.

For Poland, plane crash in Russia rips open old wounds



The 97 aboard a Soviet-era plane were heading to Katyn, site of the 1940 massacre of Polish prisoners of war. Now Poland, which hasn't forgotten its tragic past, must grieve the loss of its key leader.

By Megan K. Stack

April 11, 2010

Reporting from Moscow

The plane crash that killed Polish President Lech Kaczynski on Saturday gutted a nation's leadership and silenced some of the most potent human symbols of its tragic and tumultuous history.

It was, in a sense, a nation colliding with its past: The aircraft ran aground on a patch of earth that has symbolized the Soviet-era repressions that shaped much of the 20th century, near the remote Russian forest glade called Katyn where thousands of Polish prisoners of war were killed and dumped in unmarked graves by Soviet secret police in 1940.

The toll cut a swath through Poland's elite. The 97 dead included the army chief of staff, the head of the National Security Bureau, the national bank president, the deputy foreign minister, the deputy parliament speaker, the civil rights commissioner and other members of parliament.

Also aboard the plane were war veterans and surviving family members of Poles killed by the Soviets. There was 90-year-old Ryszard Kaczorowski, Poland's last "president-in-exile" during the Soviet years. And Anna Walentynowicz, the shipyard worker whose dismissal in 1980 sparked the Solidarity union protests that eventually led to the collapse of Polish communism and made the symbolic first chink in the Berlin Wall.

And of course, Kaczynski, a former Warsaw mayor who had been imprisoned for his opposition to communism.

"The contemporary world has not seen such a tragedy," said Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who as head of government holds the reins of power in the country. He called for two minutes of silence at noon Sunday.

The pavements of central Warsaw were transformed into a sea of light as late-night mourners burned thousands of candles. On Pilsudski Square, a trail of flickering flames stretched more than 50 yards from the Grave of the Unknown Soldier to the towering white cross marking the site where Pope John Paul II first said Mass to his compatriots in 1979.

Flying on a 26-year-old Soviet-designed plane, the presidential delegation was headed for a Roman Catholic Mass to mark the 70th anniversary of the deaths at Katyn. It was to be a tribute to long-smothered truth.

The massacre was denied for decades by the Soviet Union, and even today Russian reluctance to open the investigation files on the Polish prisoners remains a deeply sensitive topic between Moscow and Warsaw. To many Poles, the very name Katyn is shorthand for decades of secret grief and impotence in the face of Soviet power.

"I just have this feeling that Katyn is a sort of diabolical place in Polish history," said Tomasz Lis, a prominent Polish journalist and author. "It's just unimaginable; it's horrible."

As the news spread, a shiver of repulsion ran through a shocked Poland.

"This is unbelievable; this tragic, cursed Katyn," Kaczynski's predecessor, Aleksander Kwasniewski, said on Polish television. "It's hard to believe. You get chills down your spine."

The tragic irony of the crash was so extreme that it seemed destined for conspiracy theory. Russian officials were careful to pledge in the first hours to closely involve Poland in the investigation. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, rushing to the scene of the crash, announced that he would personally head the inquiry.

Poland was invaded by the Soviet Union during World War II, and lived for decades under Moscow's domination. Long after the fall of the Berlin Wall, ties with Russia remain strained by old anxieties over independence.

As the presidential plane winged toward the western Russian city of Smolensk on Saturday morning, thick cords of fog wrapped the city. On the ground, air traffic controllers urged the crew to land either in Minsk, the capital of Belarus, or in Moscow rather than risk navigating the fog, Russian officials said.

But time was pressing. The crew decided to risk the landing, and ignored the instructions from the air traffic controllers, the Russian air force said.

"The Polish presidential plane did not make it to the runway while landing," Smolensk region Gov. Sergei Antufyev told reporters. "Tentative findings indicate that it hit the treetops and fell apart. Nobody has survived the disaster."

On the ground, about 1,000 people, many of them Poles, were milling around the memorial site. A Polish priest was to say Mass once the presidential delegation arrived.

"We were getting ready for the Mass and everybody was expecting the president to arrive any minute," said Yan Rachinsky of Russia's Memorial human rights group. "Suddenly people started talking quietly about something. There were many concerned faces. . . . Soon people started running around and talking to each other. Everybody was wondering what was going on. It was an atmosphere of tension."

The priest led a prayer. Then the Polish ambassador stepped up to break the news. The presidential plane had crashed, he told the crowd. There were no survivors.

"It was a moment of complete shock," Rachinsky said. "We were standing there speechless. We couldn't believe it."

Tears wetting nearly every face, Rachinsky said, the group went ahead with the Mass.

By late afternoon, 97 bodies were being packed into coffins and flown to Moscow for identification. The flight recorders had been found, and investigators were studying them for clues.

In an address shortly after the crash, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was careful to emphasize recent improvements in relations between Russia and Poland.

"These days we conducted memorial events in Katyn together grieving over the victims of totalitarian times," Medvedev said. "All Russians share your grief and mourning."

Last week, Tusk, the Polish prime minister, traveled to Katyn to mark the massacre. In what was regarded as a turning point in the often frosty relations between Moscow and Warsaw, Putin also attended the ceremony.

Kaczynski, a frequent and outspoken critic of the Kremlin, was not invited to that ceremony.

Unlike Tusk's visit, which was given prominent news coverage in Russia, Kaczynski's plans to attend Saturday's commemoration were all but unmentioned. A few weeks ago, the Russian Foreign Ministry publicly complained that Kaczynski had not sent official word of his planned visit. The ministry had heard of his intentions from press reports, officials said.

The crash throws Polish politics into uncertainty. Kaczynski was to run for reelection in October; a government spokesman said Saturday night that Poland would hold an early presidential election, but no date had been set.

The leading left-wing candidate, Jerzy Szmajdzinski, was aboard the plane. And Polish law calls for another of the candidates, speaker of the lower chamber of parliament Bronislaw Komorowski, to take over as head of state after the president's death.

Kaczynski, 60, was elected to the presidency in 2005. He and his twin brother, Jaroslaw, were Soviet-era child actors who grew up to cut a prominent path through Polish politics. Kaczynski rose from the ranks of the Solidarity trade union before falling out bitterly with the group's leader, Lech Walesa, who went on to become Poland's first post-Soviet president.

In 2006 and 2007, the early years of Kaczynski's presidency, his twin served as prime minister.

The circumstances of Kaczynski's death carry a particular irony because of his long-standing interest in shedding light on some of the more painful moments of Poland's past. As mayor of Warsaw, he championed the construction of the Museum of the Warsaw Uprising, a tribute to the crushed resistance to the Nazis in 1944.

During his presidency too, Kaczynski frequently hearkened back to the heroic days of Solidarity's struggle against communism.

"Poland needs to reconsider its mistakes," he said in 2005.

"But more than that, it needs a consensus based on truth."

megan.stack@latimes.com

Times staff writer Sergei L. Loiko in Moscow and special correspondent Kate Connolly in Warsaw contributed to this report.


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