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Good column on immigration
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/04/02/obama...t-crime-2/

Quote:Obama and the leftwing of the Democratic Party intend to turn ten to eleven million illegal immigrants into voters as expeditiously as possible, giving them a permanent national electoral majority based upon a beholden Lumpenproletariat. If they succeed, our country will face mob rule.

No individual who broke the law to enter this country should ever be allowed to decide who becomes our president, governor, senator—or town council member. If there is one message patriotic Americans must act upon during the remainder of Obama’s reign, it’s this: No voting rights for illegals.
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RE: Good column on immigration
If amnesty is declared, or a pardon is issued, denial of voting rights might violate the equal protection. Sterilization of persons that are illegals would have a better outcome. (snip, Snip) 02-13-banana

Is that racist? just kidding
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RE: Good column on immigration
George Will on a related note, anchor babies that illegals use and the fact that there shouldn't be such a thing:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...04954.html
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RE: Good column on immigration
Immigration reform that contains some path to citizenship is coming. The motivations of the left to enlarge their voting base combined with the motivations of the corporate right to depress labor rates make it a slam dunk. I don't think there are enough sane voices in DC to put the brakes on such a plan. I just hope that we get something reasonable, but I'm not overly optimistic.
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RE: Good column on immigration
I suspect someone else has come up with this before, but there is a guy Farouk Shami who invented a hair straightener and manufactures it here in Texas running for Governor as a Democrat... a quote is attributed to him that basically says he doesn't hire whites because they all want to be managers or supervisors rather than laborers and get paid more than hispanics... 80% of his employees are hispanics.

Well, gee... Let's see... We're all told we're entitled to a college education and a liveable wage by (primarily) the democrats... then we bemoan the lack of manufacturing in this country and it moving overseas... and the low wages we pay... and how the "evil right wing" wants cheap labor... and lo and behold, a foriegn born democrat... clearly inexperienced in political double-speak... actually tells the truth.
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(04-05-2010 01:43 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Well, gee... Let's see... We're all told we're entitled to a college education and a liveable wage by (primarily) the democrats... then we bemoan the lack of manufacturing in this country and it moving overseas... and the low wages we pay... and how the "evil right wing" wants cheap labor... and lo and behold, a foriegn born democrat... clearly inexperienced in political double-speak... actually tells the truth.

Other than leaving out the phrase "greedy CEOs" I think you pretty much nailed it.
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(04-05-2010 01:43 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  We're all told we're entitled to a college education and a liveable wage by (primarily) the democrats
I do not hear too many Republicans saying that people should not attempt to attain a college education are you getting a dig in at Democrats because they attempt to offer programs that make a college education for attainable for lower income individuals.
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(04-05-2010 04:01 PM)uhmump95 Wrote:  
(04-05-2010 01:43 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  We're all told we're entitled to a college education and a liveable wage by (primarily) the democrats
I do not hear too many Republicans saying that people should not attempt to attain a college education are you getting a dig in at Democrats because they attempt to offer programs that make a college education for attainable for lower income individuals.

Stop right there. You're already conceding that Dems push for more people to go to college. Let's chalk that up as a "fact" in our little syllogism.

But, as an interjection, there is no free lunch. When you say make education attainable, that translates as "steal money and give it to other people."

Not many GOP say don't go to college, but there are some. Same w/ the Dems, there are some who are realistic about this point. And frankly what else are you going to do? You'd get massacred in the popular press if you made such statements. Even if they were caveated w/ increasing manufacturing jobs and coupled with data on oppressive student loan debt?

However, the Dems have championed the idea of sending everyone to college (or "improving education"). They've put that plank in their platform. And it's no coincidence that the education establishment votes overwhelmingly to the left, and that's mostly Dem. And with that fact established, the consequences that follow are exactly as hambone, and the TX gubenatorial candidate describe:

Young person has been promised (at times explicitly) this by education establishment.
Demand for college increases at such promises.
College expenses rise, following law of supply and demand.
Young person invests savings and defers income to go to college. High taxes to pay for "attainable education" for others makes saving even more difficult.
College graduate expects ROI on his large financial investment in college, and expects previous promise to be met.
That person is unhappy if pay and position are low and/or equal to non-college grads.

Just came across this a few minutes ago:
http://toughmoneylove.com/2008/12/08/the...-disgrace/

only problem with it is that the charts start in the 1980s. Would be more interesting to see them go back to the 1940s.
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RE: Good column on immigration
(04-05-2010 04:01 PM)uhmump95 Wrote:  
(04-05-2010 01:43 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  We're all told we're entitled to a college education and a liveable wage by (primarily) the democrats
I do not hear too many Republicans saying that people should not attempt to attain a college education are you getting a dig in at Democrats because they attempt to offer programs that make a college education for attainable for lower income individuals.

Of course not... They'd be accused of wanting to deny a college education to lower income individuals... 05-stirthepot

Where in my post did I talk about the ability to afford college?? I'm more bothered by the lack of votech in high school and the dumbing down of courses.

Do you disagree that "universal college" has been more of a fucus of the left than the right?
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