Ok, so here is the scenario: The BCS makes its final power move of power consolidation. The end game is four 16 team super conferences. The final product looks something like this:

SEC: Adds the powers of the Big 12 South, Texas, A&M, Oklahoma and OSU

B10: convinces ND to finally join and then absorbs the B12 north minus Colorado and Iowa State (dropped from AQ status) :

The PAC 10 becomes a truly western league by taking Texas Tech and Colorado from the B12, TCU, New Mexico, Utah from the MWC and Nevada from the WAC.

So now only the ACC is left, ready to absorb 4 teams from the Big East and finish it as an AQ BCS football league. My question here is: who do they pick?

Here are my thoughts:

In: Uconn, Pittsbugh Syracuse and Rutgers for their TV market, athletics and academics.

Out: WV (good athletics but bad academics and small market) UL (athletics and academics are good but overall potential not as good as the 4 taken, smaller market) Cincy (see UL) USF (who needs them when you have FSU and Miami already)

So who gets saved and makes it into the ACC in this little fantasy? Who are your top 4 picks?

(02-28-2010 06:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Ok, so here is the scenario: The BCS makes its final power move of power consolidation. The end game is four 16 team super conferences. The final product looks something like this:

SEC: Adds the powers of the Big 12 South, Texas, A&M, Oklahoma and OSU

B10: convinces ND to finally join and then absorbs the B12 north minus Colorado and Iowa State (dropped from AQ status) :

The PAC 10 becomes a truly western league by taking Texas Tech and Colorado from the B12, TCU, New Mexico, Utah from the MWC and Nevada from the WAC.

So now only the ACC is left, ready to absorb 4 teams from the Big East and finish it as an AQ BCS football league. My question here is: who do they pick?

Here are my thoughts:

In: Uconn, Pittsbugh Syracuse and Rutgers for their TV market, athletics and academics.

Out: WV (good athletics but bad academics and small market) UL (athletics and academics are good but overall potential not as good as the 4 taken, smaller market) Cincy (see UL) USF (who needs them when you have FSU and Miami already)

So who gets saved and makes it into the ACC in this little fantasy? Who are your top 4 picks?

Some corrections-WVU's academics are not less than UL's or Cincy's--all are Tier 3 .

WVU has received very high national tv ratings over the years-not likely to be viewed as only a local market as some teams are.

UL and WVU are in the top 60 revenue earning teams out there, WVU has recently won two BCS bowls against the SEC champs and Big Twelve champs, neither are
likely to be left behind.

Enough of this super conference nonsense.

(02-28-2010 07:00 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Enough of this super conference nonsense.

I'll hold off on cancelling the "superconference" idea until after the Big Ten and Pac Ten have made their moves and declared their expansion is over.

(02-28-2010 07:13 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(02-28-2010 07:00 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Enough of this super conference nonsense.

I'll hold off on cancelling the "superconference" idea until after the Big Ten and Pac Ten have made their moves and declared their expansion is over.

The B12 and BE will still be here.

(02-28-2010 08:06 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(02-28-2010 07:13 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(02-28-2010 07:00 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Enough of this super conference nonsense.

I'll hold off on cancelling the "superconference" idea until after the Big Ten and Pac Ten have made their moves and declared their expansion is over.

The B12 and BE will still be here.

The longer this goes on, the more I think the BE will survive.

The B12 could collapse though. I actually think they are more fragile.

Agreed,if anything the Big 10 comments lately about keeping tradition and not losing a dime in $ per team give me hope. I just think think they stop at 12,because the Pac 10 in no way shape or form could be successful with 14 or 16 teams(unless Texas went).

Im with buckaineer,if UL or WVU get left out it will be a travesty,both make a lot of money and have VERY good athletics across the board. UL's revenue is about to get even bigger with 15k more football seats and 45 boxes,and 3k more basketball seats and TONS of boxes. A BCS league would be beyond insane not to pick either up.

(02-28-2010 06:40 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(02-28-2010 06:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Ok, so here is the scenario: The BCS makes its final power move of power consolidation. The end game is four 16 team super conferences. The final product looks something like this:

SEC: Adds the powers of the Big 12 South, Texas, A&M, Oklahoma and OSU

B10: convinces ND to finally join and then absorbs the B12 north minus Colorado and Iowa State (dropped from AQ status) :

The PAC 10 becomes a truly western league by taking Texas Tech and Colorado from the B12, TCU, New Mexico, Utah from the MWC and Nevada from the WAC.

So now only the ACC is left, ready to absorb 4 teams from the Big East and finish it as an AQ BCS football league. My question here is: who do they pick?

Here are my thoughts:

In: Uconn, Pittsbugh Syracuse and Rutgers for their TV market, athletics and academics.

Out: WV (good athletics but bad academics and small market) UL (athletics and academics are good but overall potential not as good as the 4 taken, smaller market) Cincy (see UL) USF (who needs them when you have FSU and Miami already)

So who gets saved and makes it into the ACC in this little fantasy? Who are your top 4 picks?

Some corrections-WVU's academics are not less than UL's or Cincy's--all are Tier 3 .

WVU has received very high national tv ratings over the years-not likely to be viewed as only a local market as some teams are.

UL and WVU are in the top 60 revenue earning teams out there, WVU has recently won two BCS bowls against the SEC champs and Big Twelve champs, neither are
likely to be left behind.

US News' "tier" system is absolutely corrupt and inherently biased.

The Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) (http://www.arwu.org) which does not mimic US News' self-fulfilling subjective popularity contests but actually uses objective measurements ranks Cincinnati in the top 90 of U.S. universities.

I could see a scenario (wishful thinking) where the ACC gets hit hard enough through expansion that the BE is actually in a stronger position than them.

If the SEC expands i think its almost a gaurentee that theyll take ACC and maybe big 12 teams. Maybe they go 16 with Oklahoma, VT, FSU, and Clemson. Is the remaining 9 of the ACC really stronger than the BE? Youd be looking at:

Miami
Boston College
Maryland
Virginia
NC state
North Carolina
Duke
Wake Forest
Georgia Tech

I dunno, I think our 8 are in a stronger position than those 9 at that point.

Maybe the SEC decides to drop mississippi state and picks up GT or Miami, then the ACC is in serious trouble. Hell i could even see the big 10 making a serious play for their TV network and taking Miami

Wait, how is the WV market too small to warrent inclusion but the B10 willing takes two schools from Kansas? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Jackson

Jackson,
The OP has a Big 12 / CUSA agenda. Wishful thinking (if you can call it that).
CJ