(12-29-2009 04:43 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  not spewing venom about the belt just pointing out what is even obvious to you guys. I thought the belt would have a banner year but most of the teams were quite worse than usual and it inflated the records of the top two. There was way more parity in the Wac then in the Belt. the belt had two good teams and all really bad ones. And no ULL and ULM at the end of the year were not playing good football. ULL was a really good team last year that got hit by the injury bug, alot like we were this year. This year ULL got to 6 wins on the lack of any good conference competitition. Same record but not the same talent levels. It is you guys that want to start this thread about how the belt is better than the wac because of one good win by MT. but the reality is that the belt was just really really bad this year.

Tech has had, at most, 3 winning seasons in the new millennium...I think that's just really, really, really bad...now that's what I call reality

ASU lost two starters in a game the practice squad could have won and it went downhill from there. Starting your fourth center just ain't a good thing.
Going into your final game with six offensive linemen on the roster ain't a good thing.
Starting a back-up running back on defense because you are out of players ain't a good thing either.
Having 15 players who return next year who won't be able to go through spring drills due to surgery rehab really ain't a good thing.

(12-29-2009 05:18 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  3 winning seasons in the new millennium

Do you mean the first 10 years of the new millenium?

so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

(12-29-2009 05:41 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 05:18 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  3 winning seasons in the new millennium

Do you mean the first 10 years of the new millenium?

Maybe this will clarify: Since the new millennium began...I put a link to the definition since you thought I spelled it wrong

P.S. Thanks for trying though...

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
-Hamlet Act III scene II

It's awful hard to make a convincing case of superiority when multiple fans spend their days trolling the boards of those they deem inferior and feel compelled to defend.

I just don't see any posts by Bama fans defending the snipes and slams here, nor do I see it on CUSA boards. You don't find Big 10 fans showing up on the MAC boards to deal with their snark.

If Tech has such a great deal... enjoy it and quit trying to convince us to be in awe of it.

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 05:41 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 05:18 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  3 winning seasons in the new millennium

Do you mean the first 10 years of the new millenium?

Maybe this will clarify: Since the new millennium began...I put a link to the definition since you thought I spelled it wrong

P.S. Thanks for trying though...

I didn't even catch the spelling. I thought you were trying to make it look like Tech has only had 3 winning seasons in 1,000 years. (You could have said "decade.") You said you thought that was "really, really bad."

Look at your conference:

Winning Seasons (in FBS) this milleNNium...
stAte - 0/10
FAU - 4/9
FIU - 0/8
ULL - 1/10
ULM - 0/10
MTSU - 4/10
UNT - 3/10
Troy - 7/10
WKU - 0/1

(12-29-2009 06:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
-Hamlet Act III scene II

It's awful hard to make a convincing case of superiority when multiple fans spend their days trolling the boards of those they deem inferior and feel compelled to defend.

I just don't see any posts by Bama fans defending the snipes and slams here, nor do I see it on CUSA boards. You don't find Big 10 fans showing up on the MAC boards to deal with their snark.

If Tech has such a great deal... enjoy it and quit trying to convince us to be in awe of it.

I'm bored to death and like to talk Tech football. You guys bring us up alot over here.

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

You are a true Tech fan...even in the wake of a losing season, you still equate your success to the conference and not your team...

And it's a joke, right? Tech is better than TROY?

(12-29-2009 06:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

You are a true Tech fan...even in the wake of a losing season, you still equate your success to the conference and not your team...

And it's a joke, right? Tech is better than TROY?

You must not have read this thread?

(12-29-2009 06:50 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

You are a true Tech fan...even in the wake of a losing season, you still equate your success to the conference and not your team...

And it's a joke, right? Tech is better than TROY?

You must not have read this thread?

Yep...but I'm commenting on your "whack" comments. Money can help build a conference as the example of Idaho comes to mind, but that still doesn't mean they'll maintain their winning ways. An example of that would be Tech '08 vs '09...How can you claim to be such a powerhouse and y'all can't even be successful on your own in the wac, without BSU?

sad part is that yes even with this four win team I would lay money that Tech would beat Troy this year. I have seen nothing from you that would lead me to believe otherwise.

(12-29-2009 07:02 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:50 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

You are a true Tech fan...even in the wake of a losing season, you still equate your success to the conference and not your team...

And it's a joke, right? Tech is better than TROY?

You must not have read this thread?

Yep...but I'm commenting on your "whack" comments. Money can help build a conference as the example of Idaho comes to mind, but that still doesn't mean they'll maintain their winning ways. An example of that would be Tech '08 vs '09...How can you claim to be such a powerhouse and y'all can't even be successful on your own in the wac, without BSU?

Have you been drinking?

My point is that the WAC is a stronger conference than the Sun Belt. Hence, Tech is not as successful in the WAC as Troy is in the Sun Belt.

Then I laid out the Sagarin Ratings, the NCAA statistics, and the historical records of both Tech and Troy to compare the schools. To me it shows that Tech is AT LEAST an equal of Troy. I think the information provided shows that Tech would dominate the Sun Belt just as much or more as Troy has done.

What are you not getting?

Here's a re-post of post #53:

Troy went IA in 2001.
Total Record: 60-47
vs SBC: 39-11
vs FCS: 10-0
vs AQ teams: 3-27
vs non-AQ/non-SBC teams: 8-9

vs SBC/FCS: 49-11
outside SBC/FCS: 11-36

La Tech went IA in 1989.
Total Record: 116-112-3
vs SBC: 28-7-1
vs FCS: 12-1
vs AQ teams: 9-52-2
vs non-AQ/non-SBC teams: 67-62

vs SBC/FCS: 40-8-1
outside SBC/FCS: 76-114-2

(12-29-2009 07:20 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 07:02 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:50 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

You are a true Tech fan...even in the wake of a losing season, you still equate your success to the conference and not your team...

And it's a joke, right? Tech is better than TROY?

You must not have read this thread?

Yep...but I'm commenting on your "whack" comments. Money can help build a conference as the example of Idaho comes to mind, but that still doesn't mean they'll maintain their winning ways. An example of that would be Tech '08 vs '09...How can you claim to be such a powerhouse and y'all can't even be successful on your own in the wac, without BSU?

Have you been drinking?

My point is that the WAC is a stronger conference than the Sun Belt. Hence, Tech is not as successful in the WAC as Troy is in the Sun Belt.

Then I laid out the Sagarin Ratings, the NCAA statistics, and the historical records of both Tech and Troy to compare the schools. To me it shows that Tech is AT LEAST an equal of Troy. I think the information provided shows that Tech would dominate the Sun Belt just as much or more as Troy has done.

What are you not getting?

Oh, I get it all right, I just don't think you do. It is not mutually inclusive that Tech is good because they get BC$/whack money...The whack is better than the SBC because of BSU...period. And Tech would be middle of the pack, at best, in the SBC.

So, there's no need to repost anything else...I get it...

(12-29-2009 07:37 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 07:20 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 07:02 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:50 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:38 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

You are a true Tech fan...even in the wake of a losing season, you still equate your success to the conference and not your team...

And it's a joke, right? Tech is better than TROY?

You must not have read this thread?

Yep...but I'm commenting on your "whack" comments. Money can help build a conference as the example of Idaho comes to mind, but that still doesn't mean they'll maintain their winning ways. An example of that would be Tech '08 vs '09...How can you claim to be such a powerhouse and y'all can't even be successful on your own in the wac, without BSU?

Have you been drinking?

My point is that the WAC is a stronger conference than the Sun Belt. Hence, Tech is not as successful in the WAC as Troy is in the Sun Belt.

Then I laid out the Sagarin Ratings, the NCAA statistics, and the historical records of both Tech and Troy to compare the schools. To me it shows that Tech is AT LEAST an equal of Troy. I think the information provided shows that Tech would dominate the Sun Belt just as much or more as Troy has done.

What are you not getting?

Oh, I get it all right, I just don't think you do. It is not mutually inclusive that Tech is good because they get BC$/whack money...The whack is better than the SBC because of BSU...period. And Tech would be middle of the pack, at best, in the SBC.

So, there's no need to repost anything else...I get it...

That's why I posted this earlier:

Sagarin Spreads:

Troy -
-3 at Neutral site
-6 at home
Even in Ruston


MTSU -
-2 at neutral site
-5 at home
+1 in Ruston

ULM -
+5 neutral
+2 at home
+8 in Ruston

FAU -
+8 neutral
+5 at home
+11 in Ruston

ULL -
+9 neutral
+6 at home
+12 in Ruston

stAte -
+11 neutral
+8 at home
+14 in Ruston

FIU -
+13 neutral
+10 at home
+16 in Ruston

UNT -
+16 neutral
+13 at home
+19 in Ruston

WKU -
+24 neutral
+21 at home
+27 in Ruston


Why don't you just go back and get caught up and then present some fresh material?

Fresh? You keep typing the same, tired drivel about Tech and post numbers from two differing timeframes (tech 1989 - present vs 2001 - present) and you want to be taken seriously...

Let's talk about 2001 - present...look that up and get back to me about Tech...WHACK conference (that's the way it should be spelled), yeah right...

(12-29-2009 06:19 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2009 06:08 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  so if i'm reading all this correctly...

T Won1 is bragging because his team sucks, but they will be getting a large ammount of cash from two teams that DON'T suck? Congratulations Tech, you're dignity now has a price tag.

Don't know what you've been reading. I'm saying Tech has a better football program than Troy and the WAC pays more money to its members because it is a better conference than the Sun Belt.

well...you're wrong. sorry.

(12-29-2009 07:51 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  Fresh? You keep typing the same, tired drivel about Tech and post numbers from two differing timeframes (tech 1989 - present vs 2001 - present) and you want to be taken seriously...

Let's talk about 2001 - present...look that up and get back to me about Tech...WHACK conference (that's the way it should be spelled), yeah right...

Troy since 2001

Total Record: 60-47
vs SBC: 39-11
vs FCS: 10-0
vs AQ teams: 3-27
vs non-AQ/non-SBC teams: 8-9

outside SBC/FCS: 11-36

La Tech since 2001

Total Record: 49-60
vs WAC: 26-30
vs FCS: 4-0
vs AQ teams: 3-23
vs non-AQ/non-WAC: 16-7

outside of WAC/FCS: 19-30

* It looks like the only difference is Troy has more wins against Sun Belt teams than Tech has against WAC teams and Troy plays more games against FCS schools.