If Oklahoma doesn't have 42 walk-ons, then it's because the team has 85 scholarships.

A college football roster is usually somewhere around 100 players. At Jacksonville University, it's 150.

Bragging on A-Sun soccer!

Let's see here. In the A-Sun last year, a grand total of two teams finished with winning records. One of those teams, Gulf Coast, was 8-7-1.

ETSU finished in a tie for third place with a 4-4-1 conference mark. Overall they were 5-8-3. It was major news that they only lost to Virginia Tech or some school like that by ONE GOAL (as if one goal games in soccer are some sort of rarity).

The conference champ, Campbell, was 8-9-1 overall and 7-1-1 in the conference.

So you'll excuse me if I don't go ga ga over the athletic equivilent of getting a C in remedial english.

As far as the ESPN ticker, studies show that if you had to pay for the exposure a football team gives you it would go into the millions.

Consider, what would a 15-inch ad in the local newspapers cost? What would the scroll of ETSU on CBS or ABC or CNN give you (as far as the result, it usually gives exposure to sports fans that they can at least say "East Tennessee State! Oh, I've heard of them!"- which is something you can't say about Tusculum).

We brag on the Pharmacy School for bringing in 700 students at the end of the day. Why wouldn't we brag on another entity that would give more exposure and as many students?

Also, I have to ask, since when is enrollment such a great thing? I mean, does West Point say "LOOK! We've raised our enrollment from 4,500 to 6,000 in the last few years! We're on our way!"

Or do they brag on their exclusivity?

Granted, I realize West Point and ETSU are in two different boats. But enrollment doesn't do much for me. It can mean ETSU is lowering its academic standards. It can mean they need more money.

Sadly, when you cut football and raise enrollment that is the case and you have to have your head firmly planted in the sand to think otherwise.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sp...25428.html

Interesting article about Dayton a non scholarship Div 1AA school.

I found this part really interesting.

Quote:Even without athletic scholarships, fielding a football team isn’t cheap. According to gender-equity filings for the 2007-08 school year, the athletic department spent $964,369 on football while generating just $136,098 in revenues.

But Kelly, who retired in 2007 after a highly successful 27-year run, said the school still gains overall by keeping football because of the additional students who come to UD for the chance to extend their careers.

“There were something like 17 new football programs in the NCAA last year, so that would tell you adding the sport sure is a plus from that standpoint,” Kelly said. “It’s a pretty good investment. It also brings life to the institution in the fall and gives people something to rally around.”

Wow, did I really just make a post in support of Pitt?

R

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/sports...ss&emc=rss

Article on Georgia State adding football

Quote:In the 1980s, 42 programs were started, according to the N.C.A.A. The start-ups dipped to 22 in the ’90s, largely because of spiraling costs and soul-searching on whether the mission of higher education was being perverted by big-money sports.

The pace has picked up this decade. The N.C.A.A. counts 28 programs that have been started, and more are warming up.

Quote:South Alabama, in Mobile, and Old Dominion in Norfolk, Va., will field football teams this season. Old Dominion has designs on membership in the Colonial Athletic Association — Georgia State’s league in 2012, after a short stint as an independent — at the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly Division I-AA) level. South Alabama aspires to the top-shelf Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A) to compete with the likes of Alabama and Auburn.

Quote:For a college looking to lose its unwanted label as a commuter school, he said, “Football will help Georgia State develop an image that is more accurate to what it is today.”

Applications are up 25 percent this year, far higher than at other state universities, according to the administration. It partly attributes the increase to the coming new diversion on autumn Saturdays.

Wow Students actually voting to increase fees to bring football back at these 4 schools
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Quote:Lamar: Cardinals Athletics led by Billy Tubbs, will embark on a 5 million dollar campaign to help with the start up cost of football. The students have passed a fee increase in the amount of $8.75 an hour which will garner about 2 million dollars annually. This increase will raise the total cost of attending Lamar by 131.25 or about 4% for a total of $3173.25. This is assuming a student class load of 15 hours. They plan on using the student fees to help offset the debt service of about 11 million dollars in facility improvements.
Lamar student fees with football: $875
Football begins: 2010
Feasibility Study: Coming Soon!

Quote:Georgia State: GSU believes that the estimated start up cost will be about 7.8 million for football. This is being secured by student fees and alumni fundraising. GSU's student fees will be raised $85 per semester for a total of $600 which is within $10 of Georgia and Georgia Tech's student fees. Overall it will raise GSU students fees and tuition by about 3% and will garner about 5 million dollars annually.
GSU Student fees with Football: $600
Football begins: 2010
Feasibility Study: http://www.nmnathletics.com/pdf2/53118.p...M_ID=12700

Quote:Old Dominion: ODU's first football game in 69 years will be held in the fall of 2009. Before Football was officially added, ODU alumni were asked to raise 8 million dollars to help with start up cost and the establishment of a football endowment. The alumni succeeded and the students followed by passing a $7 per semester fee increase to help fund the program. This fee will generate about 2 million each year. ODU's on campus football stadium was built in 1936 and was last used for college football in 1940. The stadium is currently undergoinf 24.8 million dollars in upgrades.
ODU Student fees with football: $99
Football begins: 2009
Feasibility Study: Coming soon!

Quote:South Alabama: As part of a 75 million dollar campus wide campaign, the university of South Alabama is seeking 1.5 million for new athletic facilities which includes football offices. USA students voted to increase their student fees by $150 which will raise 3.5 million dollars a year. This will raise their overall cost of tuition by 6%.
USA Fees with football: $258
Football begins: 2009
Feasibility Study: Coming soon!

dont disagree with you good sir. the big goof was that pres. stanton failed to give any advance warning or at least spend a little time visiting with his presidential colleagues in the socon regarding what he was thinking - he simply had not been very active with that group, so he had virtually no good will banked. a very bad miscalculation on his part

(11-02-2009 05:24 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  Silence- VMI booted? Left on their own? If you're right, thanks for the correction, but isn't the point that here was a school that was deemphasizing football just a year before and was leaving the SoCon?

Why would ETSU think they were so special?