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Interesting comments from Obama on healthcare
Quote:CNN) -- President Obama said Monday that limits on medical malpractice lawsuits could be a necessary part of overhauling the nation's ailing health care system.

The AMA agrees with Obama on the need for health care reform but not how to go about it.

In a speech to the 158th annual meeting of the American Medical Association, Obama cited the need for doctors to cut health care costs by reducing the number of unnecessary tests and procedures that are performed to reduce the risk of malpractice claims. Such reductions might require restrictions on malpractice liability to protect doctors, the president said.

"I'm not advocating caps on malpractice awards, which I personally believe can be unfair to people who've been wrongfully harmed, but I do think we need to explore a range of ideas about how to put patient safety first, how to let doctors focus on practicing medicine, how to encourage broader use of evidence-based guidelines," he said.

Obama also said that reforming health care requires changing the focus from the quantity of treatment to the quality of care.

To applause, he said that doctors should be able to concentrate on curing patients instead of worrying about a bureaucratic system that bases pay on the amount of tests and services.


"It is a model that rewards the quantity of care rather than the quality of care; that pushes you, the doctor, to see more and more patients even if you can't spend much time with each; and gives you every incentive to order that extra MRI or EKG, even if it's not necessary," Obama said. "It is a model that has taken the pursuit of medicine from a profession -- a calling -- to a business."

Obama also addressed rising health care costs, saying they could force the United States to follow in the footsteps of a bankrupt automaker.

"If we do not fix our health care system, America may go the way of GM -- paying more, getting less and going broke," he said.

The AMA agrees with Obama on the need for health care reforms but has reservations about the creation of a "public option" paid for by the government to ensure coverage for the 46 million uninsured Americans.

Obama has made health care reform a top priority of his young administration, and Congress will consider at least three proposals in coming weeks to address an issue that deeply divides Democrats and Republicans.

A proposal from Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, a longtime health care reform proponent, includes a public option as one choice for consumers. The measure also would mandate coverage for all people, either at their own cost or supplied by employers.

Obama and Senate Democratic leaders say the idea is to give consumers more choice and provide competition for private insurers. They insist that people will be able to keep their current coverage, with the public option covering those currently without coverage or unable to afford full coverage.

Republican leaders adamantly oppose any public option, complaining it will lead to an eventual government takeover of health care similar to the cradle-to-grave coverage in Canada and England.

The AMA, which represents the interests of doctors and nurses, opposes any public option plan that forces physicians to participate, expands the fiscally challenged Medicare program for senior citizens or pays Medicare rates.

At a Senate committee meeting last week, Dr. Samantha Rosman, an AMA board member, said the association believes all Americans can be covered within a private insurance market supported by tax subsidies and credits that provide proper incentives.

For his part, Obama has outlined a series of steps to lower current costs and raise taxes to pay for an overhaul of the health care system.

On Saturday, the president proposed $313 billion in cutsand new savings over the next decade, with some of the money coming from expected increases in efficiency, reductions in excessive hospital payments and drug cost savings for individuals enrolled in both Medicare and Medicaid.

The money would be in addition to the $635 billion in spending cuts and tax funds Obama has already requested to help ease the transition to a new system that would cover uninsured Americans and do a better job of slowing the surge in medical costs.

Obama's plan includes reducing tax deductions for high-income Americans. Another funding idea under consideration is taxing the medical benefits of employer-provided health coverage, a move the Obama administration opposes but has not ruled out.

A national survey released last week by Diageo/Hotline found that 68 percent of those questioned opposed taxing health insurance benefits in order to pay for the enormous cost of expanding health care coverage to all Americans.

Possible alternatives to a public health insurance option include private cooperatives, like electricity cooperatives, owned and paid for by communities that would compete with existing insurance programs. Watch Rep. Ron Paul weigh in on health care reform »

Supporters say such a program would require initial government support, but eventually would provide the kind of competition Obama seeks without creating a new government bureaucracy.

Last week, Rosman of the AMA said the association could support a cooperative plan, depending on the details.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday that Obama is open to whatever ideas will work to address a problem that must be addressed. Watch what Sebelius has to say about the administration's plan »

"The costs are crushing us," Sebelius said. "It's hurting families. Our businesses are less competitive. We can't continue on this pathway."

Bolded some key quotes. Italicized some opposition/counterpoint.

I am encouraged that the adminsitration has done the necessary budget modeling that has shown just how enormous of an issue this is - it's frankly bigger than the Iraq/Afghan occupations, the financial bailout, etc. This is one issue that I do hope gets reviewed and hotly, but constructively debated. I want whatever plan we put in place to be groomed with a fine comb and a meaningful, effective proposal to be put into play.

There is no easy solution to this. We will have to sacrifice on some level. I dislike taxing employer medical benefits, but I understand that compromises must be made.

Also, and it will fall on deaf ears here, but the nearly $1 Trillion in cuts (& improved efficiencies) is already a large step in the right direction. That's an enormous amount of money.
06-15-2009 01:26 PM
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yep, lets have an honest debate, as opposed to this Alinsky/Macheivelli incrementalism
06-15-2009 01:37 PM
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He NEEDS doctors and the AMA if he wants to pass any single-payer insurance scheme. This is probably one of the AMA's biggest legitimate concerns - outrageous malpractice lawsuits....
06-15-2009 01:48 PM
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The problem with those malpractice suits is that it's such a high stakes game. Too much cost and too big $ if you win. That's not serving justice. Many claims that are lower $ or higher cost are overlooked.

And let's not confuse it with mass tort litigation, which is a joke. The lawyer gets rich playing arbiter, while victims (many of which are too ignorant to know better) get a pittance, and the corporations never receive justice.
06-15-2009 01:54 PM
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What he says and what he does is two different things. He is expert at telling people what they want to hear.
06-15-2009 04:27 PM
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RE: Interesting comments from Obama on healthcare
(06-15-2009 01:26 PM)Artifice Wrote:  
Quote:CNN) -- President Obama said Monday that limits on medical malpractice lawsuits could be a necessary part of overhauling the nation's ailing health care system.

Bolded some key quotes. Italicized some opposition/counterpoint.

I am encouraged that the adminsitration has done the necessary budget modeling that has shown just how enormous of an issue this is - it's frankly bigger than the Iraq/Afghan occupations, the financial bailout, etc. This is one issue that I do hope gets reviewed and hotly, but constructively debated. I want whatever plan we put in place to be groomed with a fine comb and a meaningful, effective proposal to be put into play.

There is no easy solution to this. We will have to sacrifice on some level. I dislike taxing employer medical benefits, but I understand that compromises must be made.

Also, and it will fall on deaf ears here, but the nearly $1 Trillion in cuts (& improved efficiencies) is already a large step in the right direction. That's an enormous amount of money.

I'm glad you boldfaced that quote from CNN because it is BOLDFACED LIE based on the AP version of this story.

Quote:President Barack Obama bluntly told doctors Monday he opposes their highest legislative priority — limiting malpractice awards — and got a smattering of boos from an audience he was here to court for his health care overhaul plan.

Should we be surprised that CNN would lie for their sweety?


Obama presses doctors to back health care overhaul

Quote:Without offering specifics, Obama did tell the doctors that "excessive defensive medicine" conducted out of fear of lawsuits should be curbed.

Hmmm, Without offering specifics, isn't that Obama's standard operating procedure?
06-15-2009 05:09 PM
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You cannot believe any words that comes out of that man's mouth.
06-15-2009 05:14 PM
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(06-15-2009 01:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  He NEEDS doctors and the AMA if he wants to pass any single-payer insurance scheme. This is probably one of the AMA's biggest legitimate concerns - outrageous malpractice lawsuits....

We really need to STOP referring to these plans as "single payer"....They should be called "mass theft" since these funds will be extracted from millions of hard working people without their consent.
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Tort Reform and malpractice award caps are STATE ISSUES, not Federal.

There is no Federal Medical Malpractrice Law

Anyway, the CBO pretty much just gutted Obama Health Care Reform... $1 Trillion only covers 1/3 of the present uninsured.

Anyone who votes for this BS is committing political suicide
06-16-2009 08:07 AM
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We're already paying for the uninsured when they go to the emergency room and then can't pay their bills.
06-16-2009 04:04 PM
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