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Twenty Years Later...
When all hell was breaking loose in Beijing in the days before aznd after June 4, we should have done a little more "shoving" to collapse another Communist Empire. Shame on you George H.W. Bush. You blew a fantastic opportunity to end a repressive government that is rapidly becoming a regional and global threat.

Soaked in sweat, his heart racing, Chen Guang descended the steps of China’s Great Hall of the People and aimed his automatic rifle at the sea of student protesters occupying Tiananmen Square. A 17-year-old soldier from the countryside, Chen and his comrades had just been given chilling orders: to clear the symbolic heart of the nation, even if it meant spilling blood.

“We were assured there would be no legal consequences if we opened fire,” Chen recalled in an interview on Tuesday. “My only hope was that the students would not put up a fight.”

Twenty years after Chinese troops shot their way into the center of Beijing, killing hundreds of people and wounding many more, Chen provided a rare window into the military crackdown that re-established the Communist Party’s supremacy after six weeks of mass unrest and then, for most Chinese, disappeared in an official whitewash.

Speaking publicly for the first time — and defying security officials who have told him to keep silent — he explained how soldiers from the 65th Group Army dressed in civilian clothes on June 3 and stealthily made their way to the Great Hall on Tiananmen Square’s western edge. At midnight, with clips of ammunition slung across their chests, they faced off against demonstrators, the air filled with the singing of students and the sound of gunfire. “I can assure you I didn’t shoot anyone,” he said.

Now an artist and a bit of a provocateur living on the outskirts of Beijing, Chen said he spent the next 20 years suppressing memories of that day. But last year he began working on a series of paintings based on hundreds of photographs, taken at his unit’s request while he was on the square. They include gauzy images of protesters commandeering a public bus, exuberant students parading with pro-democracy banners and soldiers feeding their abandoned encampments into bonfires.

“For 20 years I tried to bury this episode, but the older you get the more these things float to the surface,” he said, chain-smoking in his apartment. “I think it’s time for my experiences, my truth, to be shared with the rest of the world.”

But by publicizing his experiences through his art, Chen risks provoking the authorities, who are eager to suppress discussion of the incident and excise June 4 from public memory. In recent weeks, as the anniversary of the crackdown approached, the police have detained dissidents whom they feared might draw attention to June 4. Last spring, Zhang Shijun, a former soldier from north China, was arrested after telling The Associated Press that he regretted his role in crushing the pro-democracy protests.

Last summer, after local galleries refused to show his paintings, Chen posted them on the Internet. Within hours, however, they had been taken down.

A slightly built man who talks softly and without emotion, Chen says he is not worried about the consequences of speaking out, even if he has received warnings to keep his paintings to himself. “I’m not doing anything wrong. I’m just talking about my experiences,” he said.

Isolated in their barracks three hours north of the city, Chen said he and his fellow soldiers understood little about protests. They knew only what military officers told them: “that bad people were trying to destroy the nation that was established with the death of martyrs,” he recalled.

On May 19, they were given orders to enter the city. But their path was blocked by throngs of students and ordinary Beijing residents supporting the demonstrators. For two days the troops were lectured to and fed by strangers while the nation’s military leaders debated what to do.

On the third day, his unit withdrew, but Chen said the episode left him confused. “We were told they were bad people but the students seemed so honest and earnest,” he said.

After nearly two weeks isolated in their barracks, the soldiers were given civilian clothes and told to make their way to the Great Hall in groups of two or three. Chen said his assignment was far more unnerving. He said he was the only passenger in a double-length bus with its seats removed and its interior filled to the windowsills with guns and ammunition.

Unfed and terrified, the soldiers, most of them teenagers, waited inside the Great Hall while military commanders, perched at a second-floor window, strategized the assault. Around midnight, power to the square was cut and the soldiers eased their way down the broad steps to the street. To frighten the students into leaving, he said the men were told to fire into the air. The tactic had the desired effect.

By 2 a.m., tens of thousands of students were weeping and singing the Internationale as they filed out of the square. Not long afterward, armored vehicles rolled in. One went to work on the Goddess of Democracy, a papier-mache statue that art students had built just days earlier. “It took them three rams before it fell to the ground,” Chen said.

Most of the deaths in the crackdown, according to multiple accounts of the incident, occurred in the streets leading toward the square, not in the square itself.

But the image that haunts him most is rather mundane. As he was cleaning up the square that morning, he spotted a luxuriant pony tail amid the detritus of crushed bicycles and tangled blankets. The clump of hair, held by a purple band, had been crudely shorn, perhaps as an act of protest but possibly the result of something more sinister. “It was a startling image. I can’t stop thinking about that hair and why it had been cut off,” he said.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6457031.html

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That photo still has not lost any of its power.
06-04-2009 07:56 AM
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A man among boys, that's for sure.
06-04-2009 08:22 AM
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John Howard mentioned in his interview at the Hoover Institute that he believes eventually something has to give in China now that they are opening things up so much to forces that are almost irreversible


George H.W. Bush was a so called "realist", a 'realist' is afraid to overthrow a regime. Although, on the other hand they did just that in Panama and Central America. Theres a time and place for Order and a time and place for change.


on the otherside of things, there is a China worshiping Cult in the Lew Rockwell sewers, were they think the Chinese Leader during that time to be the "Man of the Century" over Reagan and Churchill.01-wingedeagle

Quote:The Greatest Man of the 20th Century?

Posted by Lew Rockwell at 08:37PM

There is a case to be made for Deng Xiaoping, who launched the biggest, fastest increase in prosperity and freedom in the history of the human race, and brought the Chinese people back into the world economy, to their great benefit and ours

Sure Deng was better than Mao, but good grief you freaking idiot
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Quote:The Most Important Legacy of Tiananmen [Gordon C. Chang]


In 1989, a million Chinese gathered in the spiritual heart of their country, Tiananmen Square, in defiance of the Communist party. Deng Xiaoping, then China's paramount leader, ordered the vicious 27th Army to shoot its way through the streets of Beijing on the night of June 3. By the morning of the 4th, soldiers had reclaimed the Square after hundreds, and perhaps thousands, had been killed.

What is the most important legacy of the tragedy that many this day mourn? It is, in my view, China's modernity. The party, after Tiananmen, had no real choice but to permit the Chinese people to continue to remake their nation, and the most far-reaching change was the undoing of Mao Zedong's extreme social engineering. Mao had consolidated the power of the Communist party by dividing up the Chinese people into small units and isolating each of those units from others. In the countryside, he created self-contained communes. In the city, he built state-owned enterprises. Separated from one another, the Chinese people had no real way to challenge Mao's one-party state.

Now, however, the Chinese people are building businesses and organizations that span the country, and they are getting in touch with each other as China modernizes. And today on the internet and in other forums, the Chinese are having national conversations. As a result, citizens with common grievances are beginning to act in unison, and this poses a challenge of the first order to the regime. China at this moment may be changing faster than any other nation. And it is not the party that is leading change; it is the Chinese people demanding it.

The Communist party has slowly evolved since Tiananmen, but the society it leads is remaking itself at great speed. The consequence of this dynamic is uncontrollable change, and uncontrollable change means that one day China will be free.

— Gordon G. Chang is the author of Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes On the World. He lived and worked in China and Hong Kong for almost two decades.

I've done some business with a young Chinese man, they will get all over MSN, AIM, etc and in English and have tons of questions about America, etc.....anyway, the ideals of classical liberalism are advancing. They didn't learn it on their own though, they did so with Hong Kong influence...which was influenced of course by the British with Common Law and business practices. Guy I talked to, I told to get a copy of "Road to Serfdom"
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