11 things that must happen for Orlando to get a 3rd bowl game
-> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...0,726752.story

By Iliana Limón | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 25, 2009

The coalition hoping to launch a new bowl game in Orlando knows it faces a tough battle.

The group has spent the past year working to clear numerous hurdles and establish a bowl game that will benefit local breast-cancer charities. The game is tentatively scheduled to be played in December at Bright House Networks Stadium on the UCF campus.

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3. Establish commitments with two conferences to send teams to the bowl game.

Buzz: Rhodes said the bowl already has an agreement with Conference USA to be its sixth postseason tie after the GMAC Bowl ended its affiliation with the conference. The bowl committee is close to lining up the other conference agreement. The Mid-American Conference and Sun Belt are two likely choices to fill the slot.

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(01-26-2009 01:19 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  11 things that must happen for Orlando to get a 3rd bowl game
-> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...0,726752.story

By Iliana Limón | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 25, 2009

The coalition hoping to launch a new bowl game in Orlando knows it faces a tough battle.

The group has spent the past year working to clear numerous hurdles and establish a bowl game that will benefit local breast-cancer charities. The game is tentatively scheduled to be played in December at Bright House Networks Stadium on the UCF campus.

[...]

3. Establish commitments with two conferences to send teams to the bowl game.

Buzz: Rhodes said the bowl already has an agreement with Conference USA to be its sixth postseason tie after the GMAC Bowl ended its affiliation with the conference. The bowl committee is close to lining up the other conference agreement. The Mid-American Conference and Sun Belt are two likely choices to fill the slot.

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I love Orlando. This would be GREAT, GREAT news. Mouse ears, bowl game, and Courtney Lee.

With two schools in Florida and two schools in southern Alabama, you have to think that the belt would have the edge on the MAC here.

(01-26-2009 06:49 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  

(01-26-2009 01:19 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  11 things that must happen for Orlando to get a 3rd bowl game
-> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...0,726752.story

By Iliana Limón | Sentinel Staff Writer
January 25, 2009

The coalition hoping to launch a new bowl game in Orlando knows it faces a tough battle.

The group has spent the past year working to clear numerous hurdles and establish a bowl game that will benefit local breast-cancer charities. The game is tentatively scheduled to be played in December at Bright House Networks Stadium on the UCF campus.

[...]

3. Establish commitments with two conferences to send teams to the bowl game.

Buzz: Rhodes said the bowl already has an agreement with Conference USA to be its sixth postseason tie after the GMAC Bowl ended its affiliation with the conference. The bowl committee is close to lining up the other conference agreement. The Mid-American Conference and Sun Belt are two likely choices to fill the slot.

[...]

I love Orlando. This would be GREAT, GREAT news. Mouse ears, bowl game, and Courtney Lee.

With two schools in Florida and two schools in southern Alabama, you have to think that the belt would have the edge on the MAC here.

You would think so, but knowing Wright Water's he might not take advantage of this situation. He couldn't even do those back-up bowl contracts right. If the SBC doesn't get either the Mobile Bowl or the Orlando bowl then I'm lobbying for WW to get fired or resign.

I would have to agree the MAC doesn't deserve any more bowls until they put butts in seats. The MAC doesn't travel at all to conference games. Sun Belt with two Florida Schools should be in this game. MAC quality of play on the field has fallen behind the Sun Belt. Our bowl performance this past year was a disaster. CUSA has UCF which could fill this bowl. Its would be a good bowl.

(01-27-2009 01:49 AM)OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:  I would have to agree the MAC doesn't deserve any more bowls until they put butts in seats. The MAC doesn't travel at all to conference games. Sun Belt with two Florida Schools should be in this game. MAC quality of play on the field has fallen behind the Sun Belt. Our bowl performance this past year was a disaster. CUSA has UCF which could fill this bowl. Its would be a good bowl.

I don't think the MAC needs anymore bowls anyway. They likely wouldn't have enough eligible teams to fill the spot. I'm sure there would be some years though that they would fill it, but it makes the most sense for the SBC to get this bowl since we only have the New Orleans bowl and the MAC has plenty.

Lets just pray that Wrong Waters can get this done.

SBC critically needs another guranteed bowl ASAP.

The fact that CUSA has 6 tie automatic tie ins is just nuts.

I know they owned the SBC this year, but other then that the leagues have been competative with each other.

4 bowl elligible teams last year and 2 got to go, with FAU getting in solely because of TV market, Name recognition, and exposure in the state of Michigan (thanks to the MSU game)

(01-27-2009 10:17 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  The fact that CUSA has 6 tie automatic tie ins is just nuts.

I know they owned the SBC this year, but other then that the leagues have been competative with each other.

4 bowl elligible teams last year and 2 got to go, with FAU getting in solely because of TV market, Name recognition, and exposure in the state of Michigan (thanks to the MSU game)

That's because of two things:

1. CUSA has far better attendance than the Sun Belt, especially comparing the top teams, and even teams like Rice that have poor regular season attendance, do very well with their bowl traveling crowd
2. CUSA has never failed to fill all 6 bowls

(01-27-2009 10:20 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(01-27-2009 10:17 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  The fact that CUSA has 6 tie automatic tie ins is just nuts.

I know they owned the SBC this year, but other then that the leagues have been competative with each other.

4 bowl elligible teams last year and 2 got to go, with FAU getting in solely because of TV market, Name recognition, and exposure in the state of Michigan (thanks to the MSU game)

That's because of two things:

1. CUSA has far better attendance than the Sun Belt, especially comparing the top teams, and even teams like Rice that have poor regular season attendance, do very well with their bowl traveling crowd
2. CUSA has never failed to fill all 6 bowls

6 just seems a TAD much when other confrences have 1 or 2.

Im not begrudgeing CUSA more bowls then SBC. 4 I think would be plenty for the size of the confrence and let the others fend in the At large pool.

(01-27-2009 10:40 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(01-27-2009 10:20 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(01-27-2009 10:17 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  The fact that CUSA has 6 tie automatic tie ins is just nuts.

I know they owned the SBC this year, but other then that the leagues have been competative with each other.

4 bowl elligible teams last year and 2 got to go, with FAU getting in solely because of TV market, Name recognition, and exposure in the state of Michigan (thanks to the MSU game)

That's because of two things:

1. CUSA has far better attendance than the Sun Belt, especially comparing the top teams, and even teams like Rice that have poor regular season attendance, do very well with their bowl traveling crowd
2. CUSA has never failed to fill all 6 bowls

6 just seems a TAD much when other confrences have 1 or 2.

Im not begrudgeing CUSA more bowls then SBC. 4 I think would be plenty for the size of the confrence and let the others fend in the At large pool.

You do what's best for your conference. And the only conferences with just 1 or 2 bids are the Sun Belt and the MAC.

As a MWC fan I get tired of playing the WAC in bowls, we already play them in 2 bowls. What about a secondary tie-in with a MWC bowl?

(01-27-2009 09:21 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  As a MWC fan I get tired of playing the WAC in bowls, we already play them in 2 bowls. What about a secondary tie-in with a MWC bowl?

The only problem with it is that it would have to be in the South East. Sunbelt schools haven't built the alumni/fan base to travel too far west, but I think the MWC schools would be o.k. traveling here. Of course I'll take what I can get right now.

A match-up with an MWC team would be great, but I doubt that would happen. If there was a bowl formed farther west that was SBC vs MWC, I think UNT and Troy would travel pretty well, not sure about the other schools though.

(01-28-2009 12:14 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  A match-up with an MWC team would be great, but I doubt that would happen. If there was a bowl formed farther west that was SBC vs MWC, I think UNT and Troy would travel pretty well, not sure about the other schools though.

We always travel well, relatively speaking. A bowl game west of Arkansas is not a good idea with a Sunbelt team.

If I could arrange the bowl bids at my whim, I'd have the following:

GMAC (Mobile): SBC #3 vs. MAC/WAC
R+L Carrier New Orleans: SBC #2 vs. Mountain West
Orlando (new bowl): SBC #1 vs. Conference USA

Now if the University of Louisville had built a domed stadium, I'd be pushing for a Sun Belt/MAC matchup, with the goal of sending MTSU or WKU there as much as possible. Unfortunately, December and January in Louisville are not good times to have large outdoor sporting events.

(01-29-2009 09:53 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If I could arrange the bowl bids at my whim, I'd have the following:

GMAC (Mobile): SBC #3 vs. MAC/WAC
R+L Carrier New Orleans: SBC #2 vs. Mountain West
Orlando (new bowl): SBC #1 vs. Conference USA

Now if the University of Louisville had built a domed stadium, I'd be pushing for a Sun Belt/MAC matchup, with the goal of sending MTSU or WKU there as much as possible. Unfortunately, December and January in Louisville are not good times to have large outdoor sporting events.

I'd like to see:

Mobile Bowl: SBC #3 vs. MAC
New Orleans Bowl: SBC #1 vs. ACC
Orlando Bowl: SBC #2 vs. CUSA

(01-30-2009 01:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-29-2009 09:53 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If I could arrange the bowl bids at my whim, I'd have the following:

GMAC (Mobile): SBC #3 vs. MAC/WAC
R+L Carrier New Orleans: SBC #2 vs. Mountain West
Orlando (new bowl): SBC #1 vs. Conference USA

Now if the University of Louisville had built a domed stadium, I'd be pushing for a Sun Belt/MAC matchup, with the goal of sending MTSU or WKU there as much as possible. Unfortunately, December and January in Louisville are not good times to have large outdoor sporting events.

I'd like to see:

Mobile Bowl: SBC #3 vs. MAC
New Orleans Bowl: SBC #1 vs. ACC
Orlando Bowl: SBC #2 vs. CUSA

The smart thing for the Sun Belt would be to do what CUSA does and find the best geographic fit for your bowls each year. And in the Sun Belt's case with travel, it might be best to not even set the bowl that hosts your champion. If FAU or FIU is your champ, they're better off playing in the Orlando Bowl and letting the other teams have Mobile and NO just because of the distance.

(01-30-2009 10:48 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(01-30-2009 01:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(01-29-2009 09:53 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If I could arrange the bowl bids at my whim, I'd have the following:

GMAC (Mobile): SBC #3 vs. MAC/WAC
R+L Carrier New Orleans: SBC #2 vs. Mountain West
Orlando (new bowl): SBC #1 vs. Conference USA

Now if the University of Louisville had built a domed stadium, I'd be pushing for a Sun Belt/MAC matchup, with the goal of sending MTSU or WKU there as much as possible. Unfortunately, December and January in Louisville are not good times to have large outdoor sporting events.

I'd like to see:

Mobile Bowl: SBC #3 vs. MAC
New Orleans Bowl: SBC #1 vs. ACC
Orlando Bowl: SBC #2 vs. CUSA

The smart thing for the Sun Belt would be to do what CUSA does and find the best geographic fit for your bowls each year. And in the Sun Belt's case with travel, it might be best to not even set the bowl that hosts your champion. If FAU or FIU is your champ, they're better off playing in the Orlando Bowl and letting the other teams have Mobile and NO just because of the distance.

That is actually a VERY good idea.

Not being up on my Bowl orgnizational stuff I wonder if perhpas they would let teams "Swap"

Lets say Hypothetically that FAU wins the Sunbelt () and Troy is in second and gets an invite to the St Pete.

In the interest of attendance would the 2 bowl committies work with the schools and let the teams swap as attendance would probably increase for both due solely to travel distance?

i don't know, but that's an interesting question.

i'll tell you this, the Sun Belt deserves three bowls. i'd like to have:

New Orleans Bowl
GMAC Bowl
this new bowl in FL.

the NO Bowl needs to pit the Sun Belt champion versus an ACC or Big East team, not a CUSA team. Our champion (despite losing this season) is so much better than the C-USA representitive almost every year. Sure, USA owned us for a few seasons, but the conference has improved leaps and bounds since the days of UNT dominance. I mean, the Mean Green were representing the Belt with a losing record on occasion!

Anyways, yeah...we need more bowl games. it's the only way outside of success in OOC games to gain legitimacy.

(01-30-2009 03:49 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Not being up on my Bowl orgnizational stuff I wonder if perhpas they would let teams "Swap"

Lets say Hypothetically that FAU wins the Sunbelt () and Troy is in second and gets an invite to the St Pete.

In the interest of attendance would the 2 bowl committies work with the schools and let the teams swap as attendance would probably increase for both due solely to travel distance?

I think they can do that as long as the second place team has at least 7 wins.