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(01-20-2009 12:13 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(01-20-2009 11:24 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Watching this on TV is making me ill.

How this Nation elected someone so "over their head" as Obama.....:muttering:

Because people are educated by TV. This is the first Sesame Street president.

They do kinda remind me of his supporters....

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That's hilarious.
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(01-20-2009 12:51 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Maybe its because people like you continue to make gross generalizations about entire races of people based on faulty perceptions.

Are you and RobertN lovers or something ????

If you have time to listen to a Full Blooded Black Man talk about Black People .... give this Vid a Look ,,, Aye ???



Of course you won't watch it and yet you will still keep being a ignorant sloth who like Robert, hates and hates, but hides it behind calling other People Haters and Warmongers and such vile crap.

And I really don't give a fuzz what you think about Bush - - he messed up on some things and did very well on others.

When your "Boy" falls thru the Waves as he tries to Walk On Water, we will see just how Great Thou Art this clown truly is.

I hope he ABSOLUTELY lives up too all you Worshipers Expectations - - I would not want him to drop the ball on Anything he has Promised so I can revel in all you Pitt Bull Like Drones Turning on Your Master when he Hurts your little feeling next year.

What a bunch of losers to holler that you are winners ... and you call me a hater ..... best get your mirrors cleaned and the Dead Space Between your Ears filled in.

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Manning is just like Cosby. He says 70% of black people are scum sucking convicts and moral degenerates bigots according to Manning that is.

He tells white people to get rid of their "White Guilt" and stop walkiing on white eggshells.
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Totally classless and showed disrespect for the Office of the President when those people booed Bush today. I don't like the man but I would have kicked someone's ass for booing like that.
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(01-20-2009 01:42 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Relations between the Carters and the Clintons have reportedly been frosty for years, dating back to 1980, when Carter’s landslide defeat to Ronald Reagan may have cost Clinton the Arkansas governor’s mansion. At least that’s what Clinton reportedly believed.

Lou Holtz says it's because Rice came back from a 16-3 deficit to beat Arkansas in Little Rock, 17-16, about a week before the election.
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Lou Holtz is an idiot...
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(01-20-2009 08:11 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Lou Holtz is an idiot...

Yeah, that's why he is Lou Holtz and you are ..... WHO again ???

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I love Lou Holtz. I have audio tapes of his speeches. I would play them when I needed a pick up.
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(01-20-2009 12:49 PM)Fanatical Wrote:  
(01-20-2009 12:45 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(01-20-2009 11:39 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'm embarassed for Bush. Thy are booing him. Not our finest moment as a country. my God people can't stand him. I'm going on record that the next 8 yeras will be a hell of alot better than the previous 8.

Hmm, the party of class and respect. Liberals...we'll boo yah!

03-lol at least they didn't yell "terrorist" or "kill him"

That was common theme at Palin rallies, they sounded like they were Klan rallies.
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(01-20-2009 11:24 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  How this Nation elected someone so "over their head" as Obama.....:muttering:

Interestingly for me, my class had begun studying what would eventually become Obama's tactic before he even had started campaiging for the nomination. Sadly it worked despite the Founding Father's hopes that we would never elect a person in this manner (thus some of the reasoning for the Electoral College). George Will wrote a good article basically sumarizing how the campaign worked.

The Final Repudiation
Americans should ponder the profound implications of the long evolution, through six stages, of the presidential-selection process.
By George F. Will | NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Nov 17, 2008

In a Presidential contest replete with novelties, none was more significant than this: A candidate's campaign—for his party's nomination, then for the presidency—was itself virtually the entire validation of his candidacy. Voters have endorsed Barack Obama's audacious—but not, they have said, presumptuous—proposition, which was: The skill, tenacity, strategic vision and tactical nimbleness of my campaign is proof that I am presidential timber.
Because imitation is the sincerest form of politics, the 2008 campaign will not be the last in which such a proposition is asserted. Obama's achievement represents the final repudiation of the Founders' intentions regarding the selection, and hence the role, of presidents. So Americans should understand the long evolution of the selection process.

It is strange but true: Presidential politics, although of paramount importance, is a game without settled rules. More than two centuries after ratification of the Constitution, there is no stable system for selecting presidential candidates.

James W. Ceaser, professor of politics at the University of Virginia, writing in the Claremont Review of Books, notes that, contrary to conventional understanding, the Constitution created not three but four "national institutions." They are the Congress, the Supreme Court, the presidency—and the presidential selection system, based on the Electoral College. "The question of presidential selection," Ceaser writes, "was just that important to the Founders."

Under their plan, the nomination of candidates and the election of the president were to occur simultaneously. Electors meeting in their respective states, in numbers equal to their states' senators and representatives, would vote for two people for president. The electors' winnowing of aspirants was the nomination process. When the votes were opened in the U.S. House of Representatives, the candidate with a majority would become president, the runner-up would become vice president. If no person achieved a majority of electoral votes, the House would pick from among the top five vote getters. Note well: The selection of presidential nominees was to be controlled by the Constitution.

The Founders' intent, Ceaser writes, was to prevent the selection of a president from being determined by the "popular arts" of campaigning, such as rhetoric. The Founders, Ceaser says, "were deeply fearful of leaders deploying popular oratory as the means of winning distinction." That deployment would invite demagoguery, which subverts moderation. "Brilliant appearances," wrote John Jay in The Federalist Papers 64, "… sometimes mislead as well as dazzle." By telling members of the political class how not to get considered for the presidency, the Founders hoped to (in Ceaser's words) "make virtue the ally of interest" and shape the behavior of that class.
The Founders' presidential selection system, the first of six the nation has had so far, was feasible only when it was dispensable—in the first two elections, when George Washington was everyone's preference. By the time he left office in 1797, political parties, which were not anticipated when the Constitution was drafted just 10 years earlier, were coalescing.

Subsequent systems included: The selection of presidential candidates by the parties' congressional caucuses (1796–1820); nonpartisan selection (1824–28); national nominating conventions controlled by parties' organizations (1832–1908); a system of such conventions leavened by popular choice through a few state party primaries and caucuses (1912–68)—in 1968, Vice President Hubert Humphrey won the Democratic nomination without entering any primaries; since 1972, selection of nominees entirely by popular choice. Thus have conventions been reduced from deliberative bodies to mere ratifying bodies.

The brief nonpartisan system of candidate selection alarmed some thoughtful people because it left ambitious individuals unconstrained by any dependency. Hence the desire to involve the parties in presidential selection, thereby requiring aspirants to submit to principles and agendas not entirely their own. From 1832 until 1936, Democratic conventions required a nominee to win two thirds of the delegates. This constrained candidates by essentially giving a veto to any geographic region. Barack Obama completed the long march away from the Founders' intent. Most recent presidential candidacies have been exercises of personal political entrepreneurship; his campaign, powered by the "popular art" of oratory, was the antithesis of the Founders' system.

The Progressives of 100 years ago wanted to popularize presidential selection by rewarding candidates gifted in the popular art of inflaming excitement through oratory. They opened a door through which, eventually, strode George Wallace, Jesse Jackson, Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, Howard Dean and others.

Ceaser notes that the candidate whose path to the presidency most resembled Obama's was Jimmy Carter. He, too, used an intensely personal and inspirational appeal to compensate for a thin résumé. Having courted the public with flattering rhetoric—promising "a government as good as the American people"—Carter came a cropper as president, partly because he was a one-man political startup. He had been selected by a process that rewarded running as a solitary savior, offering his personal qualities—his supposed moral excellence—as the key to national improvement.

Sensible Americans hope President-elect Obama has a better fate. They also should ponder the implications of the selection process that begins again, soon.
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(01-20-2009 09:56 PM)RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:  That was common theme at Palin rallies, they sounded like they were Klan rallies.

So you and Robert "KKK" Byrd belong to the same Knights Order do ya ???

Ahhh .... I am sorry RockyMtSpottedFeverTick, I should not have accused you of being a KKK Member ..... after all, you are way below even these mentally vapid low life's standards and that is very hard to accomplish since they beg for deficient's and uber-idiots to come on in and join !!!!

Get some video of the next "Klan Rally" you attend to show us how the Klan Rallies sounds compare to a Palin Rallies .... I am most very very sure we all would love to share your "First Hand Experiences" outside Fine Arts Class ....
03-lmfao :youmoron: 03-lol 03-rotfl

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That was NOT common at Palin rallies. The lying embellish-er is at it again.

Research, try it some time, MWC fan.
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(01-20-2009 10:03 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  
(01-20-2009 11:24 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  How this Nation elected someone so "over their head" as Obama.....:muttering:

The Final Repudiation
Americans should ponder the profound implications of the long evolution, through six stages, of the presidential-selection process.
By George F. Will | NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Nov 17, 2008

In a Presidential contest replete with novelties, none was more significant than this: A candidate's campaign—for his party's nomination, then for the presidency—was itself virtually the entire validation of his candidacy. Voters have endorsed Barack Obama's audacious—but not, they have said, presumptuous—proposition, which was: The skill, tenacity, strategic vision and tactical nimbleness of my campaign is proof that I am presidential timber.

Because imitation is the sincerest form of politics, the 2008 campaign will not be the last in which such a proposition is asserted. Obama's achievement represents the final repudiation of the Founders' intentions regarding the selection, and hence the role, of presidents. So Americans should understand the long evolution of the selection process.

It is strange but true: Presidential politics, although of paramount importance, is a game without settled rules. More than two centuries after ratification of the Constitution, there is no stable system for selecting presidential candidates.

Well we, the Minority Voters, have seen the Electoral System fail and fail so miserably, that it most likely will not recover and yet Hundreds of Millions of People World Wide are celebrating as if this were Planetary Liberation Day.

Something is so terribly wrong with the way this thing came to be, that it simply transcends all common logic and sense.

Was it pure hatred that drove people insane enough to vote for and "Install a Shadow Man", who has all the background and substance of a Sea Slug, into the most powerful office on Earth ??? If so, where can the rest of us seek refuge once the fall out commences ???

And my opinion will be laughingly swept away like fodder under the hooping caws of 'Racism' and no merit will be given to my 1st Amendment Right to Express My Honest Thoughts ....

We are yet to see the harshness of how this will actually divide America even more than she is divided now - - pushy self absorbed people, who now believe All Encompassing Power, Is Theirs to wield like a razor sharp Excalibur, will attempt to trample those who dare put forth any form of opposition to what they see as their "Savior's Agenda" and they will zealously strike them down to dust with no remorse.

If you think there is a National Polarization presently in the U.S. ... Lord be with you in the coming year - - we have "Gone Global" as of Today, 20 Jan, 2009.

The RobertN's and the RockyMtSpottedFeverTicks of the Earth will fester like rabid locust and become 3-Dimensionally Delusional to the degree of obtuse intolerance and they won't even realize it.

But I am a warmonger, a thug, insane conspiracy nut, a Fascist, Communist, Racist, Bigot, and any other label that will propel their weak ideology over mine .... I no longer count in the Obama World and if I do, it is only as a nuisance against the "Cause".

Watch the beating this one simple post takes from that ilk and my point is 100% made - - what a sad day for us all.

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