ESPN tends to add games during the season in the week before the game, so if your team is having a good year, ESPN will probably pick up another game. But it's obvious ESPN has favorites..

Juice752 Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:[quote="DogsWin"]Why don't you at least wait until football season to continue your diatribe, Eager Eagle? Honestly, I have never seen any message board poster on any forum regarding any agenda who was as patheticly insecure as you.

Gee, you guys make me feel real good. I like being noticed. And, by the way, I have looked high and low and can never find a post that identifies me with CUSA or any CUSA school other than those that ACCUSE me of being affiliated with either. I really think it is important to correct those Tech guys who dont know that Tech is actually more than 30min from Shreveport. They might wait until 30min before gametime to leave and of course would be extremely late. Just trying to help.

Rand McNalley state map shows it is 68 mi from downtown Ruston to downtown Shreveport. Since the stadium is 4mi West of downtown Shreveport then you have 72mi total. Drive as fast or as slow as you like.

DogsWin Wrote:Why don't you at least wait until football season to continue your diatribe, Eager Eagle? Honestly, I have never seen any message board poster on any forum regarding any agenda who was as patheticly insecure as you.

Do you consider the Louisiana State Auditors report as diatribe? Thats where I got the information regarding your paltry home attendance, average of $110,000 at the gate per football game.s The only agenda I have is making sure the information is reported correctly.

Quote:Do you consider the Louisiana State Auditors report as diatribe? Thats where I got the information regarding your paltry home attendance, average of $110,000 at the gate per football game.s The only agenda I have is making sure the information is reported correctly.

And as you already KNOW- that report counts zero student revenues. As you KNOW, Tech charges it's ~12,000 students for home games as part of their enrollment fees, then lets them into the gate for all home games at "zero revenue". You conveniently leave out those facts, since that would boost the reported gate revenues substantially.

DogsWin Wrote:

Quote:Do you consider the Louisiana State Auditors report as diatribe? Thats where I got the information regarding your paltry home attendance, average of $110,000 at the gate per football game.s The only agenda I have is making sure the information is reported correctly.

And as you already KNOW- that report counts zero student revenues. As you KNOW, Tech charges it's ~12,000 students for home games as part of their enrollment fees, then lets them into the gate for all home games at "zero revenue". You conveniently leave out those facts, since that would boost the reported gate revenues substantially.

As you apparently DONT KNOW, La Tech does NOT charge a student athletic fee. The Tech athletic budget reflects NO revenue from students in ANY form.

eager eagle Wrote:As you apparently DONT KNOW, La Tech does NOT charge a student athletic fee. The Tech athletic budget reflects NO revenue from students in ANY form.

In the year 2004, the Tech students approved a fee to be assessed per quarter that would benefit athletics. The amount collected so far is somewhere in the 300K range. At this time, the administration and the state government are still at odds as to how the money can be spent. The money is there and it should be put to use this year. So my ULM friend...you are wrong.

johnnylightnin Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:As you apparently DONT KNOW, La Tech does NOT charge a student athletic fee. The Tech athletic budget reflects NO revenue from students in ANY form.

In the year 2004, the Tech students approved a fee to be assessed per quarter that would benefit athletics. The amount collected so far is somewhere in the 300K range. At this time, the administration and the state government are still at odds as to how the money can be spent. The money is there and it should be put to use this year. So my ULM friend...you are wrong.

Sorry but I am NOT wrong. The State does NOT allow that since advent of the TOPS program, free tuition paid for by the state for all who graduate from a Louisiana high school with just a little over 2 point grade average. Tech students pitched in a fee but STATE is not allowing it, that is why it has accumulated to $300,000 (I take your word for the amount). The state feels they are contributing about $3,000,000 per year in taxpayer funds to the athletic department and are not allowing the schools to gouge the students for any. Why doesnt Tech charge an admission fee for the students like most other schools? Could it be that none would show up at all for the games?

eager eagle Wrote:Sorry but I am NOT wrong. The State does NOT allow that since advent of the TOPS program, free tuition paid for by the state for all who graduate from a Louisiana high school with just a little over 2 point grade average. Tech students pitched in a fee but STATE is not allowing it, that is why it has accumulated to $300,000 (I take your word for the amount). The state feels they are contributing about $3,000,000 per year in taxpayer funds to the athletic department and are not allowing the schools to gouge the students for any. Why doesnt Tech charge an admission fee for the students like most other schools? Could it be that none would show up at all for the games?

The state is not allowing us to use it for operating expenses. That is the only caviat. ULL did the exact same thing an it is how they are building their indoor practice facility...so yes, you're wrong.

johnnylightnin Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:Sorry but I am NOT wrong. The State does NOT allow that since advent of the TOPS program, free tuition paid for by the state for all who graduate from a Louisiana high school with just a little over 2 point grade average. Tech students pitched in a fee but STATE is not allowing it, that is why it has accumulated to $300,000 (I take your word for the amount). The state feels they are contributing about $3,000,000 per year in taxpayer funds to the athletic department and are not allowing the schools to gouge the students for any. Why doesnt Tech charge an admission fee for the students like most other schools? Could it be that none would show up at all for the games?

The state is not allowing us to use it for operating expenses. That is the only caviat. ULL did the exact same thing an it is how they are building their indoor practice facility...so yes, you're wrong.

Nope, I am not wrong. Like you said the fee cannot be used for operating expenses NOR CAN a fee be used for athletic facilities. A fee CAN be charged to buiild a facility but the facility must be multi-purpose and available for ALL PHASES OF STUDENT LIFE, including intramural sports. Football practice at ULL will demand only minimum use of the facility, rest of time its band practice, cow shows, boat shows. And, the student contribution is only a drop in the bucket compared to overall cost.

eager eagle Wrote:Nope, I am not wrong. Like you said the fee cannot be used for operating expenses NOR CAN a fee be used for athletic facilities. A fee CAN be charged to buiild a facility but the facility must be multi-purpose and available for ALL PHASES OF STUDENT LIFE, including intramural sports. Football practice at ULL will demand only minimum use of the facility, rest of time its band practice, cow shows, boat shows. And, the student contribution is only a drop in the bucket compared to overall cost.

Ultimately, the money will be used to get bonded debt issued. This bonded debt will be used to improve our facilities. This is Louisiana, so you have to go around stupid laws that are set up for the success of no one but LSU. Of course you know that because you're obviously not a USM fan...you're not a fan period. You're a Tech hater. That's fine...you're probably just jealous because your ULM degree is only useful in the bathroom. Anyway, you will see what will be done.

johnnylightnin Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:Nope, I am not wrong. Like you said the fee cannot be used for operating expenses NOR CAN a fee be used for athletic facilities. A fee CAN be charged to buiild a facility but the facility must be multi-purpose and available for ALL PHASES OF STUDENT LIFE, including intramural sports. Football practice at ULL will demand only minimum use of the facility, rest of time its band practice, cow shows, boat shows. And, the student contribution is only a drop in the bucket compared to overall cost.

Ultimately, the money will be used to get bonded debt issued. This bonded debt will be used to improve our facilities. This is Louisiana, so you have to go around stupid laws that are set up for the success of no one but LSU. Of course you know that because you're obviously not a USM fan...you're not a fan period. You're a Tech hater. That's fine...you're probably just jealous because your ULM degree is only useful in the bathroom. Anyway, you will see what will be done.

Room rental income, for example, can be pledged to retire bonds used to build dorms but fees assessed against the general student population cannot be pledged for bond retirement. You cant get bonds issued based on the fees you now charge. Again, why not charge the students for tickets, that is perfectly legal.

It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

eager eagle Wrote:Room rental income, for example, can be pledged to retire bonds used to build dorms but fees assessed against the general student population cannot be pledged for bond retirement. You cant get bonds issued based on the fees you now charge. Again, why not charge the students for tickets, that is perfectly legal.

Folks who are smarter than you(or who are at least intellectually honest enough to admit their motives/agendas) disagree with you. I'm not claiming to be one of those, but I have spoken with some. I've been a proponent of making kids pay for tickets since I was a student. So, I won't argue that point.

DogsWin Wrote:It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

eager eagle Wrote:

DogsWin Wrote:It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

I'm not going to agree with you because I didn't see the game. I am going to say however that you hear this about half of the non-bcs schools out there yet you always pick Tech to point out facts on. Lets not pretend that it is schools misrepresenting attendance that bothers you. Lets also not pretend that it is Tech misrepresenting attendance that bothers you. What bothers you is Tech period.

Surely you can see you have an unhealthy obsession with Louisiana Tech. I mean even when you are crazy like you obviously are there has to be moments where you step back and say "I need to take a break from focusing on La. Tech all the time. I'm looking a little psycho here"

The other thing is I think you feel like the fans of the other schools really care and you are "exposing us for what we really are" The fact is when you were organizer on the other board and even now the only thing you really exposed was the fact that you are a psycho. The fans of the other schools end up agreeing with us that you are a loon and disgard the "facts" you post on here because of their source. A psycho.

eager eagle Wrote:

DogsWin Wrote:It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

of course tech rounds up its basketball attendance figures. i was there, the red was more than half full and there were a few fans in the blue. right around 2200 fans, give or take 200.

you are still a pathetic loser with your sorry little anti-tech agenda.

jay2000 Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:[quote="DogsWin"]It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

Of course you couldnt see the "big picture" while sitting in the "crowd". Wide camera angle of entire area showed red no more than half full. Those you saw in the blue section but have been out to the potty when camera scanned the area.

eager eagle Wrote:

jay2000 Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:[quote="DogsWin"]It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

Of course you couldnt see the "big picture" while sitting in the "crowd". Wide camera angle of entire area showed red no more than half full. Those you saw in the blue section but have been out to the potty when camera scanned the area.

Dude I was there. Red was OVER half full. The student section was mostly empty due to Quarter Break but I was shocked at the alum turnout. Why don't you look at the "big picture" and get out to the game because that is the best way to judge the crowd instead of guessing based on tv (and I was standing beside the announcers, red looked more than half full on tv)? I really think they are right that you really like NLULM...or is this Monreaux Tiger?

eager eagle Wrote:

jay2000 Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:[quote="DogsWin"]It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

Of course you couldnt see the "big picture" while sitting in the "crowd". Wide camera angle of entire area showed red no more than half full. Those you saw in the blue section but have been out to the potty when camera scanned the area.

dont u have some more smoking to do?

:mysterymachine:

Juice752 Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:

jay2000 Wrote:

eager eagle Wrote:[quote="DogsWin"]It's all a big conspiracy, Eager Eagle. Glad you were there to uncover it all.

You really dont have to be like Sherlock Holmes or the Pink Panther to dig up or uncover stuff coming out of La Tech. Their "mistakes" are obvious to anyone. For example, Cox Cable televised the La Tech vs Idaho basketball game last night. Cameras CLEARLY showed red seats, area closest to the court, barely half full. There are about 2300 red seats so that would result in about 1150 fans. The blue seats, next level up, were empty. Yet, guess what, reported attendance was just over 2800. For the attendance to be 2800 the red seats would have been jam packed with an overflow.

Of course you couldnt see the "big picture" while sitting in the "crowd". Wide camera angle of entire area showed red no more than half full. Those you saw in the blue section but have been out to the potty when camera scanned the area.

Dude I was there. Red was OVER half full. The student section was mostly empty due to Quarter Break but I was shocked at the alum turnout. Why don't you look at the "big picture" and get out to the game because that is the best way to judge the crowd instead of guessing based on tv (and I was standing beside the announcers, red looked more than half full on tv)? I really think they are right that you really like NLULM...or is this Monreaux Tiger?

La Tech and its fans have an ailment called "total denial". If they could get a cure for that and realize where they actually are then maybe one could see some progress. During 2004-2005 year your total gate receipts for ALL mens home basketball games was $88,000. Assuming 13 home games & tickets at $8. then there were about 850 paid fans per game.