GDawgs88 Wrote:

techfan4 Wrote:THE RIGHT CALL?????? ARE YOU KIDDING????? HE NEVER TOUCHED HIM!

I don't have the tape of the game so I can't go back and look at it, but I remember it being the right call. Besides, if it was such a bad call, how come there wasn't a big controversy about it?

Because the number of UGA grads at the AJC outnumber Tech..I think it's a ratio of like 13:1

GDawgs88 Wrote:

techfan4 Wrote:

So are you admitting how awful that call was?

Not really...I'm laughing because the AJC blamed the refs..not Donnan for losing the game.

techfan4 Wrote:Because the number of UGA grads at the AJC outnumber Tech..I think it's a ratio of like 13:1

Sort of like the ratio of UGA fans to Tech fans at Bobby Dodd Stadium?

GDawgs88 Wrote:

techfan4 Wrote:Because the number of UGA grads at the AJC outnumber Tech..I think it's a ratio of like 13:1

Sort of like the ratio of UGA fans to Tech fans at Bobby Dodd Stadium?

Close.

If Tech fans would all wear the same color, it would be obvious that its not as bad as we think. It is bad though.

techfan4 Wrote:Not really...I'm laughing because the AJC blamed the refs..not Donnan for losing the game.

How can you not blame the refs? As I said, Donnan's decision to go for the touchdown rather than sit on the ball is irrelevant. We had the game won and the refs took it from us. Plain and simple.

Oh well, it's late and I don't feel like arguing something from six years ago. Can't we all just agree that UGA owns Tech and move on?

Laettner's Legacy Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:

Laettner's Legacy Wrote:yes. it seems easier to blame the refs for a tough loss then blame your team. in the heat of the moment I blame the refs. usualy the next day I am over it and realize that it IS the teams fault.  if your team had not missed other shots thruout the game-then it wouldnt have come down to that last shot 99% of the time.

that is pretty much my theory in a nutshell. i believe that games are a series of snapshots. hundreds and hundreds of freeze frames. the refs can cost you that one frame, but a stupid play might've cost you a different frame. so yes, the refs can factor in, but imo, they never deserve the blame. maybe your team missed 8 straight free throws, that would've won the game, but instead you went to OT. in that OT the refs could make a bad call which led you to lose the game. who's to blame? your team shouldn't be so crap.

hey, we agree! :o

sweet.

How about Don Denkinger in the 1985 World Series? There's a bad call. I can't find any images online, just yet.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

techfan4 Wrote:Not really...I'm laughing because the AJC blamed the refs..not Donnan for losing the game.

How can you not blame the refs? As I said, Donnan's decision to go for the touchdown rather than sit on the ball is irrelevant. We had the game won and the refs took it from us. Plain and simple.

Oh well, it's late and I don't feel like arguing something from six years ago. Can't we all just agree that UGA owns Tech and move on?

are you saying that at some point during the game, in any quarter, that GA didnt make ANY mistakes that would have effected a potential score on offense or missed tackels that would have prevented the other team to score? or would have effected the clock so that last play woulda been different? a game is more then the last play.

a penatly here, a fumble there, a missed tackle all these things effect the final outcome. and you cannot honestly say that every mistake is the refs fault.

Here's the infamous call.

Denkinger called Jorge Orta safe which led to 2 runs being scored in the 9th inning of game 6 forcing game 7 which The Royals won. There's still some controvercy as it would have only been the first out, but many think that it would have changed the outcome of the game. The fact that it was a blatently bad call and it possibly could have led directly to St. Louis losing the series is why it still burns in many card's fans minds. It is often cited as one of the worst calls ever.

Interesting side note: Radio play by play was done by Jack Buck with Sparky Anderson as color. Nice duo.

Laettner's Legacy Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:

techfan4 Wrote:Not really...I'm laughing because the AJC blamed the refs..not Donnan for losing the game.

How can you not blame the refs? As I said, Donnan's decision to go for the touchdown rather than sit on the ball is irrelevant. We had the game won and the refs took it from us. Plain and simple.

Oh well, it's late and I don't feel like arguing something from six years ago. Can't we all just agree that UGA owns Tech and move on?

are you saying that at some point during the game, in any quarter, that GA didnt make ANY mistakes that would have effected a potential score on offense or missed tackels that would have prevented the other team to score? or would have effected the clock so that last play woulda been different? a game is more then the last play.

a penatly here, a fumble there, a missed tackle all these things effect the final outcome. and you cannot honestly say that every mistake is the refs fault.

sorry to post this again, but i am just amazed at how much we agree. this is truly a momentous pt. in history. :D

The Tigers need Sparky back in the dugout.

GrayBeard Wrote:2) In 2OT USF receiver traps the ball on the ground in the endzone. It was an obvious incompletion to me on the other 30 yard line (there are pictures floating around to back it up). Referees signal TD. Boo's, the loudest I have ever heard, rain down for 10 minutes and then continue as the ref's leave the field after the game.

I have a picture of the trap on my computer. The sad thing is, the camera angle is from behind the receiver in the back of the endzone - not very far from where the backjudge was standing.

My step-mom, who literally is almost legally blind, could tell it was trapped from the upperdeck. Worst call I've ever seen in person.

it is amazing, huh swoosh

Laettner's Legacy Wrote:are you saying that at some point during the game, in any quarter, that GA didnt make ANY mistakes that would have effected a potential score on offense or missed tackels that would have prevented the other team to score? or would have effected the clock so that last play woulda been different? a game is more then the last play.

a penatly here, a fumble there, a missed tackle all these things effect the final outcome. and you cannot honestly say that every mistake is the refs fault.

Players make mistakes all the time. They are expected to. But referees MUST do their job correctly. We outplayed Tech that game, and only lost because of a horrible call.

Two horrible calls.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

Laettner's Legacy Wrote:are you saying that at some point during the game, in any quarter, that GA didnt  make ANY mistakes that would have effected a potential score on offense or missed tackels that would have prevented the other team to score? or would have effected the clock so that last play woulda been different?  a game is more then the last play. 

a penatly here, a fumble there, a missed tackle all these things effect the final outcome.  and you cannot honestly say that every mistake is the refs fault.

Players make mistakes all the time. They are expected to. But referees MUST do their job correctly. We outplayed Tech that game, and only lost because of a horrible call.

what I am saying is that if those players DIDNT make those mistakes-then it wouldnt have come down to that one call, either way.

so the mistakes cost the game-not the call.

course after a loss-i like to blame the refs-but the next morning I see reason

It was a tie game at the time of the bad call. Both teams played evenly. Both teams made mistakes. You can say we wouldn't have been in that spot if not for mistakes, well, the same can be said for Tech.

But anyway, I'm starting to repeat myself and we're arguing over the past so I'll drop it here.

BTW, my arugments are for every game ever played in every sport.

Noone can HONESTLY say they have NEVER blamed the Refs for losing a game.

Whether they were the cause or not is immaterial.



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PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Noone can HONESTLY say they have NEVER blamed the Refs for losing a game.

Whether they were the cause or not is immaterial.



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i can. i might talk about the bad calls after the game. but i have never blamed the refs. a few years ago when the football giants lost to the 49ers, and the refs happened to forget the rules, i remember blaming our awful defense, and to a small degree, jeremy shockey's pass catching skills, or lack thereof. but i never blamed the refs.