(05-27-2022 11:08 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 11:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 10:28 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 09:20 AM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(05-27-2022 07:05 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  Fleck is a great recruiter but he isnt a great in game coach. he lost to ron english after all - how many people can say that?

Fleck's career record is 65-45! And, that includes his 1st season at W Michigan in 2013, when they went 1-11, and in 2017 at Minnesota when he went 5-7! He has been to multiple New Year's bowl games, and won 10 plus games in multiple seasons! And, to say he's a used car salesman is ridiculous! Chris Creighton I'm sorry isn't in the same stratosphere as PJ Fleck! He has A career losing division one coaching record 37-57 is Creighton’s record, and this includes his 1st season which he went 2-10, and hasn't come close to winning the MAC! I'm thankful CC is at E Michigan, but in 2013 would I've wanted PJ Fleck, or Chris Creighton.........PJ Fleck equals championships! I can't blame Viotto either, he's 17 years old, Big 10 simply isn't the MAC in football! He might never play at Minnesota, but maybe he'll win the job long-term!

I love CC too but he’s now running into the Rob Murphy issue where schools will negatively recruit against him by asking 1) How long has he been at EMU and 2) Has he won a championship and 3) What makes you think the trend will change?

CC needs to win MAC this year. I’m worried that CMU will be better than ever with their top tier FBS coach

Am I missing something? How many Big Ten Division or overall Big Ten titles has Fleck won at Minnesota? Would love to see us play Minnesota.

Fleck won the MAC but he will be looking for another job in two years because Minnesota will hover around 0.500

Maybe Fleck comes to the MAC in 2025

This would be surprising. With Minnesota Fleck won a division title (2019), ended a season with a top 10 team (2019) and has won three bowl games. And he has a 7 year contract.