(06-23-2020 04:55 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:48 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:43 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:37 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:34 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  do you see those as distinctly different groups?

Heck yes. The millions of people who are protesting the killing of George Floyd /= rioters.

So a protester cannot be a rioter, and a rioter cannot be a protester, and neither can be a statue toppler?

I see much more overlap and commonality than that.

I see the protester set as a large circle.
Withing that circle is a smaller circle. That is the rioters and looters. also within the larger circle is another smaller one, the topplers. The latter two are both wholly within the larger AND they intersect.

That's the way I see it.

Correct. I agree. But the vast majority of the protesters are not rioters. The media emphasizes their actions so they get amplified. What percentage of the protesters do you think fall into the "rioter" category? I think it's < 1%.

As Lad has noted, this thread is better served by commenting on the "demands" from the groups as they relate to Rice. I am guilty of helping steer this off-topic. For any further discussion of this let's move it to the George Floyd thread.

I think in the major cities it is closer to 20%. People of good sense would either stay away to begin with or melt away when the violence and vandalism started. Would you take your loved ones to a protest in downtown Houston? I would not. But the ones who come out to vandalize, steal, or set fires have no reason to stay home, and every reason to start the festivities.

I commented on the demands, and asked your opinion of my comments.

IMO it is nowhere close to 20%. I had family members attend the protests in downtown Houston (well... they were there but stayed well off to the side in order to maintain plenty of distance) and there were a few knuckleheads trying to break windows. We're talking 3-5 people out of tens of thousands.