(01-15-2020 03:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 03:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 10:25 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 10:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think for a good G5 it helps to be in G5 to finish ranked.as you can rack up 9 or more wins easier.

I doubt most of those 7 finish ranked if they played in P5 conferences. Navy probably goes 6-6 in the SEC or B1G. Most others as well.

I'm old school, mainly because I am actually old. I would really prefer to see a ranking that only allowed voters to rank the Top 15 teams, not 25. Once you get past #15 there's too much of a tendency IMO to vote for "deserving" teams, based purely on their W-L record, instead of "best" teams who you would pick as favorites based on their demonstrated strength and performance against challenging competition.

How do you determine who is "deserving" vs. who is the "best"? How do you know an 8-5 P5 school is better than a 10-3 G5 school, particularly one that has beaten a couple P5 schools?

What you are really saying is that the schools that have the right name and are in the right conference should be the only ones that get ranked.

My first take got buried way back on page 1, but the conversation based on a presumption about Navy continues, so...

Using Massey's matchup widget, I put in Florida's SEC schedule home and away for Navy. 5-3.
Navy's Army, Air Force, ND schedule isn't changing regardless of conference home, so Massey has 8-4 for Navy in the SEC East. Bowl win -- since we would have either beaten KState in the Liberty Bowl in the SEC spot, or we would have beaten Florida's bowl opponent -- 9-4 SEC Navy

I get where you come up with your numbers... some others though want to use the subjective "eye test", or just assume TEAM A is better than TEAM B because TEAM A plays in the right conference.