(11-13-2019 08:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 01:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 05:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 02:46 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Penny was a High School coach and gave 10k to Wiseman's mother (after his sophmore year) to move him from Nashville to Memphis to play HS ball for him at East High in Memphis. He has known Wiseman's family for many years.

Penny also donated 1 million to Memphis way back in 2008, Before he was even a JR high or AAU coach. The NCAA knew all of this over the summer before Wiseman committed to Memphis and cleared him to play for Penny and Memphis knowing all of this.

Now out of nowhere the NCAA calls his eligibility into question.

This does not seem right by the NCAA. They are totally screwing this kid over and punish Penny for things he did before he was ever a HS coach or a coach at Memphis.

Penny was obviously a Memphis booster.

The NCAA says that when they cleared Wiseman to play in May there was no evidence that Penny had paid moving expenses for him, that evidence emerged recently and prompted the decision.

Show me a link where the NCAA said that. The TRO request that was granted says the opposite, that the NCAA was told by Memphis about the move payment before it ruled Wiseman eligible on May 29, after a 5 month standard investigation.

Then the NCAA came back and said they made an error, but per their "error policy," would let the original ruling stand. Wiseman enrolled at Memphis.

Then somebody contacted the NCAA, and they reopened the case. Nobody knows for sure, but one local columnist said he was told it was UK and Duke.

Memphis assisted in the investigation again, but if anything was found, nothing was said. Then the NCAA sent a letter on Oct. 30 saying Wiseman was ineligible, b/c they reconsidered their earlier ruling. If new info arose, I'm guessing that the NCAA realized Penny was a booster, but I'm guessing until that comes out in court.

For some reason, Memphis decided to play Wiseman, anyway.

A hearing on the injunction is scheduled for next Monday. The two sides could settle, or fight it out in court. Wiseman wins, nothing happens. Wiseman loses, Memphis could get killed.

Two sides settle, nothing else likely happens.

As for the moving expenses, under TSSAA rules, it was legal. Penny was a HS coach at the time, with no idea he would become the Memphis coach. Tubby had been there only one year.

Penny is a booster, and when he became coach at Memphis and recruited Wiseman, then the payment became an issue, but the TRO that was issued says the NCAA knew of the moving expenses before ruling Wiseman eligible in May.

I'm not going to chase down all the links again. They are all over the Memphis and AAC boards here.

Actually, I got that information from a statement made by Memphis the day Wiseman was ruled ineligible. Quoting from the linked article:

"Initially, after a joint standard eligibility review by the University and the NCAA, as is common for all high-profile incoming student-athletes, James was declared eligible by the NCAA in May 2019. However, based on information that necessitated a deeper investigation, the University began to work alongside the NCAA in investigating the matter. After several months of interviews and, after a review of documentation, it was determined that in the summer of 2017, while James was a high school student and prospective student-athlete, Penny Hardaway provided $11,500 in moving expenses to assist the Wiseman family in their relocation to Memphis, unbeknownst to James."

See? Declared eligible in May, but then upon *further investigation* it was found that Penny provided the money. That's from Memphis's own statement!

As for the TSSAA, it's interesting that a judge recently ruled that the TSSAA was correct to declare Wiseman ineligible to play for his High School, a ruling of ineligibility that Wiseman avoided by getting a temporary injunction then as well.

Wiseman sued the NCAA because it worked in High School -when he was declared ineligible in High School, he sued, got an injunction, and played, knowing a final court ruling might take months by which time he's played, showed off his skills, and moved on to the next level. From the second linked article:

"The ruling on Oct. 3 gave the high school association a victory in a nearly two-year court battle regarding the eligibility of both athletes. The TSSAA ruled both ineligible for the 2017-18 basketball season. However, a court injunction granted by Kyle led to the court battle and allowed both to play that season. East went on to win the Class AAA state championship."

Doing the same thing right now.

I bet on the AAC board there's a big pro-Memphis/anti-NCAA feeding frenzy. It's a big joke, and if Memphis gets away with it then it is literally anything goes as far as recruiting violations are concerned.

Hopefully, now that Memphis has played Wiseman on the road, outside the Memphis judge's jurisdiction, the NCAA will ban Memphis from the tournament.


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That seems to be the way college athletics is headed anyway. It appears that momentum has swung inexorably in the direction of "anything goes" when it comes to providing financial inducements to athletes. Basically, it will become a free market, with the highest bidders getting the best athletes.

That won't fundamentally alter the competitive balance, though, because the wealthiest schools already have that advantage. The only thing that would likely change is that the NCAA wouldn't spend as much money on compliance issues.