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RE: Top 25: FF’s ‘Race to NY6’ (Week 7) *App St, Cincy move up to 3 & 4
(10-14-2019 07:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 04:43 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 04:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 04:25 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 04:18 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  The Citadel beat Ga Tech. Maryland is a semi-ok win. But Temple lost to Buffalo. Buffalo is 2-4. Nope, not above an undefeated App State
Memphis would have one P5 win that is not nearly as good as either USC or UNC. Nope, not above undefeated App State
SMU - if undefeated, would be likely above App State on conference rep alone. TCU is rated about the same as either UNC or USC, but a one loss SMU would be below ASU
Cincy's "Big Win" is over a team barely in the top 100
Tulane's big win is what? Missouri State? FIU?

Going off Massey Composite rankings, Cincinnati (16), SMU (20), UCF (28), Memphis (29), Tulane (31), and Navy (33) are all ranked higher than South Carolina (38) and North Carolina (43) and Temple (50) is not far behind.

Whomever wins the American could have several wins better than South Carolina and North Carolina in conference play, depending how all these teams finish the season.

I'm guessing he's putting zero stock in AAC wins meaning anything, but yeah anyone who gets thru the AAC with even 1 loss is going to have to beat probably 3 teams in conference rated higher than those 2, and maybe more.

Conference wins are a closed feedback loop - the same loop that always benefits the SEC (well, we beat each other up, so we are all good).

As stated above, undefeated SMU will get in ahead of undefeated App State, in part because of an overall tougher schedule.

It will be hard to deny App though, if they are the only undefeated G5 team, especially since they would have wins over two P5 teams, including the team that just took out one of the MNC contenders.

2016 proved that the CFP committee is willing to give AAC teams credit for quality wins in-conference.
Undefeated WMU had wins over Northwestern and Illinois. Illinois was low-ranked (in the 80s or 90s) but Northwestern was right where INC is now. Leading into the conference championship games, Kirby Hocutt talked about TWO loss Navy being able to overtake WMU on the basis of the CFP committee valuing quality wins over Houston, Tulsa, and Memphis. Navy had beaten a down Notre Dame, but that wasn't even mentioned by the CFP committee chair - just quality wins over AAC teams.
App State has some recognition advantage over that flash-in-the-pan WMU team, and Boise would definitely have cachet on their side. But that was a TWO loss AAC team, possibly jumping an undefeated team, much less a ONE loss AAC team with quality wins in conference better than any wins an undefeated App or Boise has.

In the end, they still would have picked WMU, rather than a two-loss AAC team. And App would have two wins in the mid 30's to 40, not one.

App State does have considerably more name recognition than WMU did
10-14-2019 07:46 PM
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