(09-01-2018 07:16 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 11:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:24 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I think the question would be whether or not OU relinquishes their demand if their only other option ends up being the Big Ten and the same situation...with neither rival in the same conference.

Texas and Kansas is a good combo for us and might just be easier to bring down than getting OU to break their commitment to OSU. If Oklahoma comes back to the table in that situation then do we move to 18 or more? I really don't know. I worry about getting a favorable vote on altering the postseason if we're the only ones who benefit.

Regarding the OK schools, my question has always been why in the world would the ACC not take that combo? It's true that OSU is not a top tier school, but they don't exactly have great athletic schools beating their door down.

I think the trick if we move to 18 is to make sure the ACC does as well. The Big 12 would be gone and as a matter of "Autonomy" among the new P4 or P3 we would be deadlocked at 2 for 2 against and given the weight of the SEC, the # of schools the SEC and ACC would be representing, we could easily get the Big 10 to go along by threatening an in season and post season refusal to play them in scheduled games or in any bowls outside of the CFP.

My bet is we wouldn't even have to strong arm them as they might like knowing they had the freedom to realign divisions after a larger expansion too.

In that case the ACC could take the pair of Oklahoma schools provided they also take say T.C.U. and either Baylor or Texas Tech.

The Big Ten would be in a tricky position.

From their perspective, any future expansion would ideally include some ACC schools and maybe even the old white whale of Notre Dame. So if they vote for a system that makes life easier on the ACC or facilitates ND joining the ACC in football then for all intents and purposes the B1G would be closing the door on East Coast expansion.

I'm not sure they could be talked into that unless they had already expanded West with Oklahoma or had strong options for growth in PAC territory.

ND is not going to join the Big Ten in full. It is unlikely to join the ACC in football.

Every move ND has made since 1991 (1991 NBC deal, 1995 Big East deal, 1999 refusal of Big Ten bid, 2012 ACC deal) is designed to keep ND football independent and out if the clutches of the Big Ten.

There is a slight chance ND football would join the ACC (champs only playoff). There is almost no chance ND football would ever join the Big Ten.

Delany thought he had ND "checkmated" in 2010, but here it is 8 years later and ND is no closer to joining than then, probably much further away, actually.