(08-31-2018 02:55 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 02:37 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  A few things about Kansas. We are a good buy currently. Our FB is at it's worst point in our history, by a long shot, and it is really hurting our revenue. KU FB has been mostly mediocre historically, beaten by the conference leaders pretty easily, but usually competitive with the middle and bottom. Basically Oklahoma State and KU were similar programs historically until the last decade or so (they got Boone/Gundy and we got a bunch of circus clowns). When we were last competitive under Mangino we sold out. No school has fans that will show up when you do as badly has we have the last 8 years. Our AD revenue last year was $95M, a few years earlier it was around $110M. If our football was competitive we would be making $125-130M currently. Get competitive and throw in a new stadium, if it gets done (and if it does we were assured of a landing spot somewhere), and our WSJ valuation will jump probably a $100M or more (which is into KSU/OSU territory).

Our last AD, Sheahon Zenger, was an imbecile and our previous chancellor did not care for sports. Our new Chancellor, Douglas Girod, is a sports fan who has been attending KU FB games for years, and he helped turn a struggling KU Med around. The new AD Long will get FB competitive again. We are paying him among the highest salaries for an AD in the country and I am pretty confident KU will pay pretty well ($4M+) to our next football coach, which along with Long's connections should allow us to land a solid coach. When KU has a solid coach we are competitive (Gottfried, Mason, Mangino).

As far as the SEC goes, I think KU and the SEC are about a perfect fit athletically. SEC FB already has more than enough good to great teams. The SEC would gain by having more easy wins on the schedule of their top schools. KU would almost certainly remain mediocre, but would get more talent on the roster, win more out of conference, and play competitively with the middle and bottom schools each year, but be an easy win for the top of the conference. In basketball, no conference would gain more by adding Kansas than the SEC. It would give you one of the top BB brands to help drive ratings/ticket sales for all your BB programs when they play Kansas, while also giving both Kansas and Kentucky a foil of the same stature. The Kentucky/KU games have been ratings gold the last few years and would give the SEC it's Duke/UNC type BB rivalry. The KU and MU rivalry would be restored.

I have said on here before my hope is KU ends up in the SEC or B1G, if the B12 dies, because those conferences have passionate fans like the B12 has and are closer geographically. The ACC is too far away and I have lived in 2 PAC states and all sports talk/attention there is mostly centered on the pros.

I noticed you reading the who should we take from the Big 12 thread the other night.

I think the perfect additions for the SEC to 16 are Texas and Kansas. I also figure this might be the best thing that could happen to Iowa State. Should the Big 10 take Oklahoma then Iowa State may make the most appealing partner if Texas and Kansas are off the board.

Iowa State / Iowa (Cyhawk) becomes an annual Big 10 rivalry. Oklahoma / Nebraska are reunited. Texas / A&M and MU / KU are reunited and both conferences move to 16 in acceptable and profitable ways.

I would be very good with that ending. I just don't know how likely it is that Kansas would want to come to the SEC. Or how likely it would be that Texas would not care to bring along another Texas school.

I also figured if Texas and Kansas came to the SEC that it might well help Oklahoma politically to separate from OSU since the SEC was the only conference likely to take both.

Thoughts?

If you could only land 1 of OU/Texas and are stopping at 16. Then Texas is the obvious choice because it consolidates Texas, is worth the most to media, is in a massive state, AAU, and reunites two old SWC rivalries. Kansas is the best second (if no OU) because it helps you immensely where you are weak (BB) without disrupting anything where you are strong (FB) and has the AAU bonus. Making basketball stronger is a good hedge against football's likely decline (how much remains to be seen). In a decade, basketball might be wrested from the NCAA as well, so basketball could be 40-50% of conference revenue in the not too distant future if the CTE thing hurts football too much.

If OU did not move first (big upset) and Texas/Kansas moved first to the SEC then I think OU would be able to separate from OSU to go to the B1G, likely with ISU or perhaps CU as you and others have suggested. However, I think the PAC might come in with an offer of something like OU/OSU/TTU/Houston. I think if it was obvious to the PAC that Texas is gone, they will likely swoop in for some TX secondary brands because they want into the TX market and they will grab what they can out of it while making a last ditch effort to land OU. If the price of obtaining OU is OSU and their academics then Stanford and Cal will just have to hold their noses. They would have to offer OSU rather than a 3rd Texas school or OU would certainly go to the B1G. Then again the PAC might just sit steady (academic reasons) or merge with the B1G if Texas is off the board.

So much could happen once the first school leaves the B12 depending on which school and which conference. Probably why it is so fun to speculate even during this dead period.