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RE: #BoycottCFBPlayoff
(01-08-2018 01:39 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 02:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:57 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:41 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  This is all very simple. You start the season with a definitive required path to get to the playoffs. It is the same requirement for every single member of whatever league you are talking about.

Therefore the "best" teams are the ones that are built to successfully navigate that pre-defined definitive path to that goal. Its not an eye test. Its not who has the most money. Its not who has the highest number of stars. Its not who has the most history. Its not who has the best stats. Its not what a pollster says. Its not what Condoleeza Rice thinks. The BEST teams are the ones that successfully complete the path set out for them at the start of the season....in this case winning a conference championship....or being successful enough to be a wildcard.

Thats it. The "best" does not have to be a subjective concept.

I just can't get behind that. The best team by most people's standards is who is most powerful on the football field. It's not just about paths. Just because UCF is undefeated does not mean they are better than any Top 4 team. They are the best at navigating what they were given, but not necessarily the best overall.

In 2007, Troy was two or three touchdowns better than FAU throughout the season. FAU beat them in the final game when Troy couldn't convert a 4th down on FAU's side of the field. FAU got the SBC title and Troy was left at home with no bowl. FAU at 6-6 and Troy at 8-4. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that FAU was overall a better team than Troy, even though FAU walked away with the title. No 1 to 120 polls ranked them as such either, for good reason. Winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to the playoffs.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. It's not about, stars, history, stats, or who the coach is.

I have the best car in the world. But it broke down right before I won races two times last year. Guess what. It wasn't the best car in the world for winning races.

You are arguing for subjective "they are best" when in sports...what you do on the playing field is what matters. That is sports.

You say winning a conference championship should not be a gateway to playoffs but that is how pretty much every real sport in the world does it and nobody complains. It is how the rest of football does it...nobody complains.

People have somehow been convinced that this one division of college football somehow needs an "eye test" when no other division needs it....the NFL doesn't need it....other sports leagues don't need it.

The "best" team is the one that successfully performs on the field when they need to perform on the field to complete a journey to the playoffs and then successfully reach and win the championship game. All based on what they do on the field. Sports. No polls, eye tests, computers, etc.

You don't have to win your conference to get into any of the other playoffs. It helps, and in most gives you an auto berth, but not winning your conference does not automatically negate your chances of being in the playoffs in FCS, March Madness, NCAA Baseball, MLB, NFL, or any other level of NCAA football.

Winning the conference doesn't mean you are a better team than someone else. It could be as simple as they were better on one particular day, as Auburn was. Auburn had what, five losses, yet beat Bama. They were only better than Bama on one day. Is Iowa "better" than Ohio State? Or did they just play better on one day?

Bingo. Winning a conference championship is not and should not be the end all be all. To be fair though, Auburn had 2 losses when they beat Alabama, not 5. They went on to lose to Georgia and UCF for their 3rd and 4th losses.
01-08-2018 01:46 PM
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#BoycottCFBPlayoff - AppNation85 - 01-03-2018, 07:03 AM
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