(02-07-2018 05:32 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 05:22 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 05:09 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 01:32 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 01:10 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I've had in depth conversations with administrators from all three of our sites about these ratings systems. According to those guys this is how the system works.

First and foremost it's impossible for each service to scout and rate every prospect. Being that different people are doing the rating not everyone is graded on the same criteria. That in and of itself makes it a flawed system. Many players begin getting "offers" from P5 programs, but those aren't commitable. Even though those "offers" aren't commitable their initial rankings reflect that P5 interest. Once the interest from the P5 ends and they end up committing to a G5, that is when the re-evaluation process begins and those same players will get downgraded to a lower rating. Simply because they went G5. So, even if they're rated higher before they commit to a G5 their rating decline due to the loss of interest by the P5

In other words, classes can chase those higher ratings levels, but they're working against declining scores in a number of instances. The final 2018 recalculation took place before the December 20th signing date, so anyone who was still unsigned after that date will avoid the downgrade simply because they were still on the open market. By not signing they avoid the re-calculation scrutiny and end up with a higher "final" rating than they would've likely gotten otherwise. Explains why were all of these high three-stars guys are still available even though they only hold maybe 1-2 G5 offers that are actually commit-able.

Coaches look for guys who fit what they do and don't really care if they don't "grade out" as highly for the ratings analysts. A defensive lineman that everyone else might called undersized, another staff might grade out as exactly what they want due to quickness and agility. So, the rating scale used by the services doesn't take into consideration what a particular coach might be looking for.

Bottom line is it appears even the guys who run the sites think the system is basically flawed.

Cool story bro... Yet not one link to prove or support any of it lol....par for the course. AppManDG heard it so its credible...Still cant explain all those offers to high rated guys lol.

All you talk about are links, links, links, links. I don't need any stinking links.
What you can't seem to get through your thick head is none of the facts in those studies pertain to programs at our level.

Case in point.
But recruiting rankings continue to be good predictors of future success. There are always exceptions, but the schools that sign the best recruiting classes typically have the most on-field success. The last three national champions -- Ohio State, Florida State and Alabama -- have all done a terrific job signing top-rated recruiting classes. A 2014 SB Nation story showed that every BCS champion since 2005 signed more four and five-star prospects than lesser-ranked players.

Wow!!! A study that proves teams win national championships because they sign more 4 & 5 star players than anyone else. Who would have ever thought that?! Talk about enlightening! Looks like I'm gonna have to start paying attention to these studies!

BTW, let me know when you get a chance to talk to Sloan. I'd love to be there and see his reaction when you lay some of your nonsense on him.

Yes links to articles and papers that prove things...how dare I AGAIN APP or any team is ONE out of 130+/- so ignore what happens with most of the 130 and only pay attention to App or one recruits I get it.....

Sloan was to busy landing three star recruits, I'll hit him up later. What is he going to say lol, "I see there where higher ranked talented teams at any level win more often, well I know this guy at App that disagrees so it must not be true" LOL.

I realize it doesn't fit your little comedy routine, but I'd prefer you ask him before you start speaking for him. Knowing Scott the way I do I'm pretty sure he'd rather you not assume what his response is.

Again if G5 recruit rankings are worthless, Ill take the recent multi year top ranked schools or top ranked 24/7 team talent rosters in the G5 or each conference since it will be AAC top heavy and you take the bottom half. It should not matter right. Either man up or shut up.

Bet good for anyone name it your price or action! I'll change avatar, not post whatever as long you you do the same.