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RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite
(02-21-2018 03:23 AM)joeben69 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:16 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:48 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:15 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  another driving factor for ucsd to upgrade to d1...
student enrollment expected to approach 40,000 students within the next five years (2022)...projected from 2017...but planning for 45,000...
at 45000+ in student enrollment ...all things being equal...this would put ucsd at the top of the bwc as far as student population...

Wait — UCSD planning for 45,000
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017...neighbors/

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(02-20-2018 01:38 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  then just take ucsd and leave two spots open for, whomever in case an opportunity arises.

don't pair them with cal state bakersfield just for politics sake or to maintain a cal state - uc balance. bakersfield adds no value. the wac will be stronger without them.

If UCSD had Football, then the P12 could look at UC Davis and UC San Diego as potential additions that keep the geographic balance. But they don't, so it wont happen.

It's great to see UCSD expand. I'd like to see Davis do likewise. That would ease some of the pressure on the UC system. It would be even better if Engineering slots were doubled, given the tens of thousands we import from out of State and Internationally for business here. We should develop that talent internally.

As for the Big West. It's a California conference, for California public schools. Whatever it was in the past it is no more. And it is very popular with the students and faculty, so that is not changing. I think the Big West would have preferred Sac State to CSUB, but Sac State was not ready to move.

the uc/csu balancing act in the bwc reminds me of the analogy of CSUs not being able to get into the pac-12 because the UCs will not allow it...

sdsu is nationally ranked university with a "Doctoral University" with "Higher Research Activity" (R2) status...sdsu also has pretty good athletics...what if sdsu gains membership in the Association of American Universities (AAU)...would that be a knock on the door of the pac-12???...or more like a kick???...just asking...

SDSU won’t—cannot—get into the AAU. The AAU would never invite a non-Research University in its ranks. There are several R1 research universities like Utah, New Mexico, Hawaii and Colorado St that aren’t even in the AAU and they are light years ahead of San Diego st in research.
San Diego st is also not a historically athletic school. It took the best MWC schools to leave the conference for SDSU to start making Bowl games again after making a couple in the 80’s and 90’s. No football stadium. Similarly, SDSU was awful in basketball until about 15 years ago. The worst team in the WAC for 20 years.
So, no, SDSU looks unlikely to get into the PAC...ever.

it may be several years down the road for sdsu to achieve a "Doctoral University" with "Highest Research Activity" (R1) status...but that's where they're headed...

Utah is a R1 research university that's not in the AAU but IS in the Pac-12...so AAU membership is not necessarily are a requirement for entry into the Pac-12...so it's a plus but not a must...

it wasn't until Utah had success in the mwc during the early 2000s that it was considered for the pac-12...also they where not invited to the pac-12 until the pac-12 did not get tx & ok in the pac-16 project...

sdsu football has made 8 consecutive bowl since 2010...
sdsu basketball has made 6 ncaa tournament appearances since 2010...
sdsu baseball has made 4 ncaa tournament appearances since 2010...

sdsu is also working on the sdsu west initiative which has been put on the ballot for November 2018...this includes 35,000-seat sports stadium to start...which is larger than WA state's stadium at 32,740...WA state is in the pac-12...

in the current state of the pac-12...sdsu won't get in due to the fact it's a csu...the question was meant to be a hypothetical situation where the UCs wouldn't block a CSU from getting invited to the pac-12...plus where sdsu checked most if not all the boxes required for membership...it seems that's where sdsu is heading as a whole...

So you are saying SDSU will be R1 in research in 20 years?--I don't see that happening.
There will be a 35,000 seat OCS on a brand new Western campus--I don't see that happening. (Who's going to pay for that?)
You said if those 2 things happen SDSU can be a PAC member with Research Activity like one of the PAC's non AAU schools, Utah.
That if those 2 things happen, SDSU wil have a bigger stadium than PAC member Washington St.
Finding the worst 2 examples in the PAC in select categories as something that SDSU CAN MAYBE pass in 20 years is a horrible way to present your school as a conference candidate.
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