(04-10-2017 06:43 PM)stever20 Wrote: The thing is and you know it, there are some that have said that the new big east hasn't had any drop off at all whatsoever. And that's a joke.
I don't think anyone's saying that. The late 2000s Big East was the most dominant group in college basketball history, and the current Big East is not that.
Quote:The New Big East is a good conference, a very good conference. But what 2013 was- it was the end of an era. Some folks want to act like this is just a continuation of the old Big East, and that's a joke.
No, it's not a joke. Any more than the early 1990s Big East was a joke compared to the 1984-87 Big East.
Quote:The 2013 Big East is dead. I think you talk to folks that were in the league before the split would say just that.
Quote:As far as stuff like the OOC record vs the other P6 teams. So overrated. I mean take Butler. Their win over Cincy this year was better than ANY OOC win for them outside of the game vs Arizona. Bigger than Vandy, Utah, or Indiana. Labels are so idiotic it's not funny.
Wins vs BCS conferences are a metric. There are other metrics, but looking at the at-large bids the last few years, "record vs BCS schools" is competitive with "top 50 RPI" or "record vs tournament teams" or whatever you want to use as a measuring stick.
Yes, Cinci is better than Vanderbilt or Utah or Indiana. But first-class programs that are not in a BCS conference are growing very rare.
Quote:It's one thing to take pride in the leagues performance. But when folks say stuff like "If they thought the league would not be as successful, or as relevant, or as nationally known, they were very, very wrong. " that's just wrong. NOTHING would compare to that.
Stever, you know--or at least should know--that those statements are in relation to predictions at the time that we would sink to the level of the A-10. That the Big East would continue in name, but with no shred of its past glory, like the WAC or like the Southern Conference or the Missouri Valley Conference.
That's what our haters and detractors said would happen, what some of them wanted to happen. That's what we were worried about happening. That didn't happen.
We are not the undisputed No 1 dominant basketball conference. But we are still a power conference in basketball. It's not wrong to beat our chests a little bit about that, and throw it in the face of the people who said we'd be irrelevant without football, that we should join up with the A-10, that our day was done.
