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(04-17-2014 10:24 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  I've written this a couple of times and I don't want to bore any of you, but EKU has some real hurdles to overcome. First is trying to get funding/bonding approval from Frankfort. This won't be easy and possibly not possible at all. KY does things a little different and the lawmakers decide funding for all KY schools, not just monies given, but also if they allow bonding. So say EKU wanted to upgrade their football stadium and was going to pay for it by borrowing the money and then making payments using the increased revenue from the suites and ticket sales. Most universities can move on their own, but in KY Frankfort gets involved and things can get ugly rather quickly. UK is only 20 miles from Richmond and if UK doesn't want it to happen they have some pull in Frankfort.

EKU needs to hire around 20 athletic positions. These are not $10 an hour type jobs. Having to field two new female teams with full rides, plus the increase of the 20 or more scholarships on the football side. If you watch the youtube video of EKU's new president he even admits that some of these things are long term goals.

I like EKU. It's a good school and does a great job of educating most kids in Central KY, but they don't be ready for years and years. One other thing, most people in the area are diehard UK fans. Lexington is the major tv market and EKU is barely a blimp on the sports coverage. EKU would have to always play around the schedule of UK if they expected large turnouts.

Yes, you have written this a couple of times as have a few others. I am not going to spend any more time going line by line refuting some of these lame arguments. We have all heard, debated it ad nauseum.
I believe EKU officials are intelligent enough to know the obstacles and tackle them head on, as matter of fact that's what they are doing. Fans on a message board with their own agenda, bias and opinions really have no clue regarding EKU and their potential or ability to get this done. It's just that, an opinion.
You want Liberty to move to FBS through the Sun Belt. We get it. Argue their merits please and leave EKU out of your campaign. I have not seen one EKU fan on here, including myself, make any negative post about Liberty, and there have been plenty on here. We have not used innuendos and personal opinions regarding LU to bolster our case.

First off you're not "bolstering your case" here this is a message board. No one from the SBC is ever going to make a decision on anything from reading this board.

Second, what he said has a lot of truth in it...not opinions but TRUTHS. EVERY building on the EKU campus is a STATE building...own by the state of KY and will need their approval before any bonds are sold.

Third you have yet to refute anything only to give your opinion that this new president is smarter than us good ole KY boys that seen the system and how it works for a number of years. I have no doubt he's smarter than I am but still doesn't change the fact KY is like it is and most likely always be like that. There are people on your own message board basically saying the same thing.

Yes the post you replied to is based on opinion but it's a opinion most people in KY would probably share. But at this point like ARKSTFAN and even myself pointed out EKU doesn't have to have all the upgrade funding up front. Shoot you don't even need to go full upscale on a upgrade like Western did. Spend your 10 or 15 million if the state OK the bond sale on phase 1 of a upgrade and try to get the other done over the years.

What you will need is 2 to 3 million to pay for scholarships and pay increases to your coaches. No putting that off and it's there if the state will let you do it...most likely they will. Put a $100 per semester fee on the students and you get the needed 3 million. With half of it in hand come middle Aug. Like you said your president knows this.

The needed building of the EKU campus (just like Western 15 years ago) is another matter but that probably won't stop you from getting into the SBC. Cash or building poor or not EKU is starting to build some steam in this movement. Especially with the baggage of LU.

You know I would bet that I have lived longer in the state Of KY than you. Never have lived anywhere else. I was at Western the day they dedicated the stadium in 1968 you play in now. I have been to games there more times than I can remember. You or the other poster can't tell me anything I don't already know about how things are ran in this state. I also know that western is in the same state as EKU and operates under the same rules. I have seen where western once was (no better shape than we were), so the pretending that you were somehow something other than a sister institution of EKU's, is ridiculous.
Your opinion or mine isn't worth much in the scheme of things concerning EKU and the SB or any other conference for that matter. But, every time , EVERY TIME, EKU is mentioned in a move someone from western ( or Liberty, or someone else who knows little or nothing about EKU) gets on here "preaching" about what we cannot do. I could care less about what you, wkuperson, think. What's your purpose in this discussion? WHY do you care? Never mind, I know WHY you care.

100 people could read my post on this subject and your reply and I bet most of them will say...

what the hell! is he talking about. No not the post I wrote but your reply. Why is that, because I basically agree with you in everyone of them, and not once have I said anything in one of them to make anyone (other than you) to think, "big brother-little brother" .

Now step back from your complex and really see what I wrote.

1. EKU is where WKU was 15 years ago as far as the two campus go. EKU needs major upgrades to a lot of the campus...just like Western did. Western hired a president (15 years ago) to do the same things Eastern is trying to get done today. Western didn't do it over night ...it took 10+ years to get most of it done. And there's still work to be done.

Now tell me where I'm wrong or saying anything negative about Eastern.

2. Western could not depend on the state for funding and had to get creative to get most of it. As a matter of fact Western took the led in thinking outside the box in getting all the dorms upgraded. Now uk and many other schools are using that same model. Western had to go to the state 3 or 4 times and sell them on going into partnership with BG to get 30+ million in bonds sold to help on part of the upgrade. (I have a 100+ page pdf file with the model we gave to the state showing how this money was to be paid back...so far Western had more than made what was projected)

No where have I said Eastern can't do the same...I just pointed out what Western had to go through

Now you tell me something...from someone who lived in KY their whole life (I have also..54 years) how many budget cuts on state funding do you think Eastern had in the last 8 years?

How many times has Eastern asked the state for funding to upgrade your stadium (small needed upgrades) and it was cut from the budget... 2, 3, 5 ?

Finally no where did I say Eastern couldn't do this. What I said if you do get the invite before all the funding or work is done...

the upgrades will most likely not be unscaled like it would 5 years from now if you waited/created the funding before the jump...

there are too many other expenses that will take place.


A far as why am I making comments on this, well till July my school is at least a member of the SBC. Now the question is why are you so hell bent on being on the SBC board pimping your school to fans?

Let's just leave it at this. Unless you read every thread from back in September where the criticism of EKU began, and the can't and won't started, you will not get what I am saying. The only thing I have done is reply to those who have posted all  the can't and won't (and it has been a lot of western folks). It is just like everything else, unless you talk to someone in person there's a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding the others person's viewpoint. As far as "pimping" my school on a message board. Come on. The reason I am here in the first place, is exactly why I am still writing! A lot of misinformation, innuendoes, speculation and fabrication regarding EKU. Now if you can't understand that, I am and have been wasting my time. I am not waving a white towel by any means, I am just tired of all this. It is getting ridiculous. So if you feel the need to keep this up, have at it.