(04-08-2014 06:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 06:12 PM)Florida Red Wolf Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 05:16 PM)LUalumfromnc Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 05:11 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Sun belt forum got eerily quiet all of a sudden


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ayet. It is not over until there is confirmation who the 12th member is. I hope Liberty is that member and I do not know why all this hate is happening towards my alma mater. If Liberty is the new member this is going to be a great new rivalry between Appy State and LU!!!!

Hate is usually centered on ignorance, the unknown and bias. Liberty would probably be a better choice than most but I'm not boosting any given that I'm no 12th team man.

The concerns of those of us opposed to Liberty's inclusion in the Sun Belt are based upon facts. Feel free to produce an openly Gay LU employee (not some contractor hired for a week), a practicing Jewish employee of the school, and the full Liberty Way student handbook that so that everyone can see the policies proscribing discipline for Gay students in federally recognized marriages. I think even the LU folks wont dare defend Mat Staver (then why does JFJ?)

None of LU's controversial policies are justified by any rational interpretation of Christianity (really - where in the Bible does it justify not employing persons outside your faith?). Nor will LU changing a few policies and reining in a Law School Dean that embarrasses the University just about every week on a network radio program make LU less of a Christian institution. Rather, it would make it MORE of one IMHO.

Liberty would be "a better than most" choice if they were willing to change a few policies (and would make them real peers of institutions they apparently aspire to be peers of, such as SMU and Notre Dame)

And guys, Liberty's behavior is going to look even worse next year. And even worse the year after that. If you want to argue that a school that rejects the talents of just about everyone is likely to be successful, then go right ahead. But its not what most people think. And that type of overt discrimination will be less and less acceptable as time progresses. And with LU's reluctance to cooperate with anyone, this might present an even greater issue moving forward.

But I guess we do have a way to force LU out of the Belt if they somehow get a bid. Just have the membership vote in some non-discrimination rules binding on all member institutions.

Lol as I've stated many times I'm indifferent to the liberty debate, even though I am an agnost and a huge supporter of equality no matter the race, religion, sexual orientation, or really any other prejudice created by any group to discriminate on any other group, if liberty gets in then good for them, if not that's fine too, do I agree with all their beliefs? No. Do I believe deeply in their right to have that belief? Yes. Social problems are creations of mankind, the more people accept the fact there will be differences between them and others around them the more peace we will see


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