pir84evr, I appreciate your tenacity.

1) Concerning the name change or alteration, we are both just going to throw opinions back and forth. I have given an outsider's opinion. Do with it what you will.

2) I'll concede whatever you like about undergrad rankings. As I originally said and you actually quoted in your responses, they are a small slice of the pie. There is undoubtedly no perfect ranking system. Let's leave it that ECU could argue that they are comparable with the bottom schools of the SEC in undergrad education. We can even say the same thing about your grad/post-grad programs. I'm sure some are better and worse than others when compared to SEC schools (Vandy excluded. They kick everyone's rear in this area.)

3) WVU over any current non-ACC school in Virginia or North Carolina? SEC Presidents, Boards, Alumni, Faculty, Staff, Mascots, Fans, Slive, State Legislatures, Duck Call Makers... did I miss anybody? I think it would be a strong consensus.

4) No, I certainly do know that North and South Carolina both battle over "Carolina". They both are trying to make claim to it unsuccessfully, though, correct? Eastern should just lay claim to it and make it official. If UNC or USC say that isn't fair, ask either of them if they would like to drop their North or South. See how that goes for them. Become "Carolina" and roll with it.