(09-14-2013 12:32 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 10:25 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 10:22 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-14-2013 09:12 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  WVU lacks men's swimming and diving, as well as track, which were discontinued due to Title IX. But Ollie has plans to reinstate the track program once WVU is earning a full Big XII share. I think 2021 was the date proposed, and if required to enter the SEC (in case of a collapse of the B12) all programs could be reinstated sooner. Golf is just getting started back up. I think the first year for golf at WVU is next year. The new baseball park opens next year, or 2015. I forget which, due to all the political wrangling that went on prior to it being approved...

WVU has all the other programs, including some not required, like wrestling, men's soccer, and rifle (all nationally prominent)...

Thanks Bit, none of those would be too difficult to make up within a two year time span if it had to be.

If the SEC calls, and the Big XII is going under, WVU can be ready in no time flat. Bet on that...

With either the SEC or ACC W.V.U. would be fine. If the SEC then you could reestablish the Pitt or VT game as a crossover. It will be a great thing to be ready though. Right now the Texas situation will be best summed up by a big "?". Buzz out of their leak source is that Dodds early move to a consultant role is a precursor for movement. I understand why W.V.U. is happy to be in the Big 12, but I have to think that you guys would be better off in either the SEC or ACC.

Judging from the Oklahoma folks I've spoken with lately I don't believe there is any fan sentiment there for a move to either the PAC or Big 10. I realize things may be a bit different from their president's perspective. Unlike other theories on this I believe that the remaining top brands of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas (for hoops) will all have a very large say in where they go. So, however this gets worked out I think we are all in for some surprises. But, if the Big 12 stays the course they definitely need to add a pair.

You are wrong and you make a huge overstatement. I go over to Landthieves and post there. There are plenty of fans there that wouldn't mind the Big Ten and some of them prefer the Big Ten. There are those that like the PAC, there are those that like the SEC.

To say none like the Big Ten though...you are letting your bias cloud your vision.

He1nous, I'm quite happy with our 14. This isn't worth arguing about, especially since we both agree on what is likely to happen. At this stage in the game it's all gravy for the Big 10 and SEC anyway. There are teams I would prefer to see the SEC get and teams I know you would prefer to see the Big 10 get. Where they go who knows. It will be their decision not ours. None of the Big 12 teams are really terrible. It's just that only 2 of them are name brand for football and one for basketball. Then there are some strong programs with good sports in all areas. Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Baylor, West Virginia would fall into that category. Iowa State is competitive has a decent market and is AAU. T.C.U. in my opinion is the weakest in that their sports aren't strong across the board. Their baseball is great, but whether or not they sustain football prominence is at question. Texas Tech would be great to have if they were closer. So it doesn't matter really.