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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(03-07-2021 05:03 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-07-2021 02:25 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  SEC + Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, South Florida
PAC + Texas Tech, Texas, TCU, Houston
ACC + Central Florida, West Virginia

I figure that moving Houston, Central Florida and South Florida up wouldn't be a problem because they'd be replacing programs that would be left behind in the Big 12. So there's no change in the P65 group. Texahoma would be split between the SEC and PAC, with the AAC/Big 12 bringing up the rear. Perhaps Disney entices the remaining teams from the Big 12 to join the AAC for better pay than what they'd receive by remaining in a massively depleted XII.

Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, SMU, Tulsa, Navy
Cincinnati, Memphis, Temple, East Carolina, Appalachian State, Tulane

Oklahoma, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Texas A&M, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Alabama, South Florida, Auburn
Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina

West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College
UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech, Virginia
Florida State, Clemson, Miami, Louisville
NC State, Wake Forest, Central Florida, Virginia Tech

Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State
Cal, Stanford, UCLA, Southern Cal
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Houston

Just forget about the GOR's for a moment and ask yourself which 2 conferences could make leaving profitable enough for ACC schools to make a final movement to 4 conferences of 18 possible? The SEC and Big 10 will essentially be doubling the ACC's media rights by 2024-5. Couple that with the bleak outlook afferward due to a post COVID debt load by many athletic departments, the declining viewership for cable TV, the rise of streaming, the aging of the Boomers, and the negative impacts of NIL and Pay for Play with the court cases pending, and political fallout and the future looks a lot bleaker than it did 2 years ago. So even the most supposedly secure of the ACC schools might be interested in doubling those revenue streams. Place 12 of them and the GOR is moot. The circumstances make it much more feasible.

So the Big 10 picks up: Notre Dame, Virginia, Missouri, Kansas
Think 75 million per school in media payouts

Maryland, Notre Dame, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Virginia
Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Ohio State
Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Wisconsin


The SEC picks up: Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia Tech, and Florida State

Think 75 million per school in media payouts

Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, N.C. State, South Carolina, Virginia Tech



The Big 12 and PAC use the expiration of GOR's to build another conference:
Think 65 million per school in media payouts.

Arizona, Arizona State, Brigham Young, Colorado, Texas Tech, Utah
California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Southern Cal, Stanford, Washington
Clemson, Miami, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Oklahoma State, Texas


And the New and Improved AAC:

Think 45 million per school in media payouts

Army, Boston College, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia
Air Force, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oregon State, Texas Christian, Washington State
Baylor, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Louisville, South Florida, Wake Forest


Now those would become the four P conferences comprised of 72 teams and each champion would be invited to a 4 team CFP. Conference champions would be decided in a 3 game playoff between the 3 divisional champs and the best at large.

The only thing that a committee of non participating coaches would do is seed the field for the CFP. No more committees.

All 12 games would be P games with 1 preseason game against any other FCS or former FBS school not in the P4.

This is the 65 former P schools plus (Air Force, Army, Brigham Young, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Navy, and South Florida

Flip Missouri and Kansas for Duke and UNC, and I think it works, though the new Big 12/PAC winding up with Clemson/Miami is an odd fit.

I also wonder if the Big 12/PAC can really merge culturally speaking and also based on current alignments (PAC with Big 10, Big 12 with SEC). The SEC wouldn't let the Sugar Bowl be versus the AAC, they would want to keep the relationship with the Big 12/PAC conference, but the Big 10 would want the same thing.

How would you solve the Rose/Sugar issue in this format?
03-08-2021 01:02 PM
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schools making profits - jhawkmvp - 11-12-2014, 12:32 AM
RE: expansion - oliveandblue - 12-03-2014, 12:41 AM
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why? - Soobahk40050 - 03-08-2021 01:02 PM
RE: If ... - Transic_nyc - 03-09-2021, 06:34 AM



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