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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-22-2020 10:34 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-22-2020 10:25 PM)ICThawk Wrote:  
(07-22-2020 12:18 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-21-2020 10:01 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  I am curious in knowing which B12 schools are making overtures to the SEC and/or other power conferences, recognizing the B12's GoR will have a window in a few years

I expect some of the schools that perceive they could be vulnerable are doing so.

Texas and Oklahoma may feel they can be coy, but really, their real options are quite limited.
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Oklahoma will want to keep the Bedlam game (and other sports competition with oSu) and the RRR. Doing both as OOC games doesn't look acceptable, even with the enhancement of new conference revenue distribution.

Texas' issue with the SEC is not logistical or athletic compatibility, but largely attitudinal and a diminished ability in exercising control. Doing something with the BIG, the Pac12, or even the ACC or being partially independent, will be complicated, lack enthusiasm, have geographic oddity, and incorporate fewer to none traditional rivals.

That's why some form of Texa-homa offer to the SEC would be forthcoming. And Texas will say that they only did it to preserve rivalries and protect Tech. It's simply not logical or practical for there to be another outcome unless that outcome is status quo in the Big 12.

The SEC will initially say they can only handle Texas and Oklahoma leaving them an OOC game for Tech or OSU. But ultimately ESPN will make or break the deal by what they offer us to take the foursome.

The question is whether ESPN would rather pay for Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia (or another) to move to the SEC or pay for Texa-homa to make the same move. If ESPN calls their bluff by refusing to pay for OSU or TTU then we'll have our answer. If Texas and Oklahoma refuse to move without them and calls ESPN's bluff we'll have our answer as well.

What if:
Texas refuses to come. Oklahoma decides to come.

Assuming the SEC doesn't want to stay at 15, would the additional team be chosen by Oklahoma, ESPN, or Oklahoma/ESPN? In those scenarios, which team would be #16?

They'd all have their preferences. Maybe OU wants O.S.U. which was Boren's demand in 2011. Maybe ESPN wants Kansas. Maybe the SEC wants T.C.U. to lock down a presence in DFW with Oklahoma providing strong support with A&M.

The numbers would be crunched and ESPN would give their valuation and you go from there. The rub is Oklahoma cannot afford to be in different conferences than both Texas and Oklahoma State. And without the Sooners none of Kansas, Oklahoma State, or T.C.U. are even considered.

The Only way Oklahoma comes to the SEC is either with a Texas or an Oklahoma State. The only other possible way would be if the fans at Oklahoma are fine with eliminating the Bedlam game in order to preserve the RRR in OOC scheduling.

If the latter is the case, #16 would probably best West Virginia, Kansas or, if no one else is interested, Oklahoma State.
07-23-2020 12:32 PM
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why? - murrdcu - 07-23-2020 12:32 PM
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