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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-21-2018 12:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-21-2018 11:58 AM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  ND did sign an agreement that if they did join a conference for FT fb, it would be the ACC. I don't recall the dollar figures attached to that, but believe it runs for the duration of the ACC's GoR. Yes, it can be challenged, defied, orbit gets weakened with age. Agree, ND could start playing more BIG games if that's where they eventually expect to be. Game sacrifices would have to happen somewhere.

I think they would be subject to an exit fee (last established was 52 million) which the ACC has now pegged as a multiple to their media revenue, but which is so punitive it won't stand up to contract law, and they would owe on the GOR for their sports other than football, but that figure wouldn't be significant because basketball is the only other thing that adds revenue and N.D.'s basketball valuation is the lower than any ACC school and isn't even in the top 100 for all college hoops teams.

But, moving in steps not in violation of any GOR and bringing their non football sports over in 2037 or shortly before would be very workable if they wanted to change their direction.
Notre Dame gets nice basketball crowds, and that's been evident long before they entered the ACC. The old Big East went out of their way to add and cater to them. Their men's team are often in the NCAAs, and their women's team won the NCAA tournament this year. True, their bb is not in the class of Duke, UNC, UVA, Syracuse, Louisville, and a few others, but they seem to keep in the thick of things and are not dwelling at the bottom..
I am not a ND fan, and dislike their deal with the ACC. However, I find it difficult to believe they are not in the top 100 in valuation, and schools such as Miami and VPI rate higher for the long-term. I can't argue this. I don't know enough otherwise per data. Someone such as TerryD (?) will have to champion their partial ACC value. That said, if ND left the ACC tomorrow, I would not view it as any kind of a big loss. ACC bb doesn't need them. As to fb, the ACC can schedule other major OOC opponents. Four ACC schools already have long-established in-state SEC rivalry games built-in to yearly schedules. And no carrots are required for these games. I don't know how much ND adds to the ACC TV contracts, but ND may be getting a larger slice than what they are actually contributing.

Back to expansion. I believe Notre Dame is still a BIG target, the #1 preference. The BIG may have interest in Texas and/or Oklahoma, but getting ND would be their most favored accomplishment.

For the SEC, I believe they will have the top bargaining power with the B12 if they break in a few years.
(This post was last modified: 07-22-2018 08:19 PM by OdinFrigg.)
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why? - OdinFrigg - 07-22-2018 08:15 PM
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