(07-20-2018 01:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 12:54 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  The ACC's proposed non-division pods they were proposed several years ago, was shot down by the SEC and BIG, while giving the B12 what they wanted.
The ACC intended to incorporate Notre Dame into their new proposed system for determining the conference champion.
The three pod model could work in the SEC. Conferences @ 15 members with three pods @ 5 members would be workable. So if just Texas was added to the SEC, that could work if minds were changed about divisions.
Such could be good for the remnants of the B12. Maybe the BIG is really just willing to go after one school the next time. It would fit a basketball format, as well as baseball.

SEC:. adds Texas (15)
PAC: adds OU, oSu, and TTU (15)
BIG: adds Kansas (15)
ACC:. Add ND fb FT (15)

Big 12 north:. KSU, ISU, WVU, Cincy, UConn
BIG 12 SW:. TCU, Baylor, Houston, SMU, Tulane
BIG 12 East:. Memphis, UCF, USF, ECU, Temple

OK, the ultra-expansion advocates won't like it. But it is doable. Who loses?

It's the same reason I supported 18 in 3 divisions of 6 for so long. But yes the format works and yes it may be the more economical way to move. But no, I don't see the Big 10 taking Kansas in that format. They are a natural fit but they don't increase the pie.

If each conference could only take 1 school to get to 15 then that school is going to have to deliver a lot.

So you are absolutely correct that if we had only 1 slot left then Texas checks more boxes for the SEC than any other school.

So who does that for the Big 10? Notre Dame They may not be able to land them but that's who they would go all out to get if 15 was going to be it. And if there was only going to be 1 more for the ACC and Notre Dame only has a one foot in now then they have to think about the total revenue moving forward. The ACC only has an upside in a 15 school model of 1/2 of Notre Dame. So let's say the Irish go all in and that the ACCN pays out 7 million a year (a healthy estimate for 3 years from the launch date). That puts the ACC in the 40 million range, or roughly where the SEC is today. If the SEC adds just Texas then at that time we along with the Big 10 would be North of 50 million. But Notre Dame could make as much as 15 million a year more than their potential ACC payout with a move to the Big 10. That's a 150 million a decade.

So if Texas goes SEC there will be great pressure for N.D. to go for much greater revenue.

So as I see it the SEC / ESPN would go for Texas.
The Big 10 would go for N.D. and settle for OU.
The PAC would add Kansas, Texas Tech, and possibly I.S.U.
The ACC would either retain N.D. fully, or would get stuck trying to find a replacement. Things at that point could get really interesting.

But if Kansas was acceptable to the Big 10 then you might have nailed down the moves.

So for the sake of discussion let's say the Big 10 doesn't take Kansas. How would it play out then?

I'm still not sure if there is a clause in ND contract that they have to join the ACC if they join a conference.

If, however, ND is free to choose a conference and chooses the Big 10, I think that destabilizes the ACC enough that even if conferences had decided to stop at 15, they would reevaluate with new eastern targets now possible. At that point I would think that at least 16 if not 18 would be the move as the Big 10/SEC claimed the schools of value from the east as well as from the west.