(02-24-2016 05:24 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 03:38 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  If I were the SEC, It would depend on what my goal was.

For 16: Kansas and Oklahoma
For 18: Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia

Kansas for basketball.
Oklahoma for football, basketball, and national appeal.
Texas because it's Texas.
West Virginia for its likeness to SEC programs along with a decent football program and a good basketball program.

I would consider Oklahoma St only if Oklahoma declined.
I would consider Baylor only if Texas declined.
I would not consider TCU or Texas Tech. TCU is football-centric while Baylor has strong football and basketball. Texas is too far away.
I would not consider Kansas St. Their football and basketball are both typically okay, but neither program are as Kansas is to basketball.
I would consider Iowa St if the goal was beyond 18.

(02-23-2016 02:12 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 08:34 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 08:17 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I do like the idea of bringing the Texahoma 4 aboard.

My gut instinct says Texas doesn't want to follow A&M or OU for that matter, but if we're selling the move as a home run for the SEC in taking the core of the Big 12 then perhaps that soothes the ego a little bit. I really don't think A&M would be against it even though I'm sure they don't really want UT in the league.

Then again, perhaps the simplest explanation is the most accurate. If UT doesn't really want to follow A&M and A&M doesn't really want UT then there may be an unbridgeable impasse.

If we do grab OU and OSU, and I think we would, then the ACC likely benefits as well from some additions. That's only true though if the UNC core wises up a little bit and realizes the league's weaknesses. If the GOR doesn't really hold water in the Big 12 then I guess there's still a chance we could land FSU, Clemson, NC State, and Virginia Tech. That's a really great 20. I'm still not sure the UNC Board would let us speak to NC State though.

West: Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Arkansas
South: LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Alabama, Florida State
North: Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Virginia Tech, NC State
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson

The ACC could still survive as a basketball-centric East Coast league...

North: Boston College, Syracuse, Temple, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Louisville
South: Miami, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia

Notre Dame affiliates and stays independent in football. That's a decent Power league.

The B1G can take Kansas and UConn

I could see Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State going to the PAC.

Left out are Baylor, Kansas State, and West Virginia. Not sure the ACC would take any of those because if the football first members move out then the NC core will want to totally change the culture of the conference.

What would you suggest if we could only take from the Big 12?

I do agree with you that if we're getting UT then we'd probably have to give them a prominent place in a Western division and that we'd probably need to take a 3rd TX school. I'd be ok with that.

My preferences for 4 from the Big 12:

1. OU, OSU, UT, TT...I like TT over Baylor because its public and would have a larger alumni base. I think they also have much higher attendance. Those fans are pretty passionate.

2. OU, OSU, UT, Baylor

If UT is not involved though then I'd go with WVU and KU.

B12 preferences: UT, OU, KU, WVU, everything after that would be rather bland.

I don't think the SEC lands just OU without OSU, and if UT came on board I think they would insist on the third Texas school. It is my impression that UT's agenda would be to get Tech, TCU, and Baylor placed. Tech has a better chance of being appealing to the PAC if TCU goes with them. Dallas would be a nice add for the PACN and since their payouts lag those of the present Big 12 they might go for that market if that was all that was left to them.

So if I'm right and Texas is trying to place the rest of the Big 12 Texas contingent that is why I think their price to the SEC would be Baylor. The Bears can't really go anywhere else.

So UT, Baylor, OU, OSU would be what I would see as more likely.

But yeah, I would be naturally pleased if we could totally cherry pick and take UT, OU, KU, and WVU, it's just that I don't see it happening.