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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
Let's posit a hypothetical that heretofore I do no believe has been put forth anywhere on any message boards that I've read. But what if Missouri to the SEC was a preservation move by ESPN, not a market enhancement move as it has been sold. What if ESPN was worried that Oklahoma might be a target for the Big 10 if they successfully blocked the Big 10's advancement into the Mid Atlantic. With Texas under contract to ESPN for the LHN until 2034 then really the Big 10 in order to get to 16 has nowhere else to go if the ACC holds together. Knowing that Delany would want another Eastern school to go with Maryland Missouri was therefore snatched up and stored in the SEC to prevent a scenario in which Oklahoma would go to the Big 10.

There is no doubt but what ESPN wants Texas. Look they doled out a big loser of a contract to hold their options in the Mouse's gloves. Texas will want OU close at hand no matter where they land. Oklahoma has to have the Cowboys with them. Now that Louisville has cracked the ACC's academic standards wide open the door for WVU to finally be considered has to be in the mix for the ACC even if the purists bristle at the thought.

So, ESPN blocks the Big 10 in the East, resolves their research dilemma in the West by getting Kansas and having their Oklahoma impasse resolved by Mizzou. The SEC lands both Oklahoma's but with Texas refusing to park themselves in the ACC the way is finally paved for them in the SEC.

The Big 10 takes Missouri and Kansas and moves to 16.

The ACC takes West Virginia, and Notre Dame full time to move to 16.

The SEC stands at 16 with OU, OSU, and Texas.

The PAC either stands pat or adds 32 million to its footprint with Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and T.C.U.

But with a little creativity things could work out much more smoothly:

The Big 10 takes 4: Missouri, Kansas, Iowa State, Virginia Tech
The SEC takes 5: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Baylor, Kansas State
The ACC takes: Cincinnati, Connecticut, West Virginia, Notre Dame and Temple

That's 8. Big 12 is dissolved. If the PAC wants into to Texas their option is the following: Texas Tech, Houston, T.C.U., and hopefully B.Y.U..

That's 70 P4 schools including those with the biggest cases to be made for inclusion. Even if the PAC doesn't play ball the three 18 member conferences in the East and Midwest have some really nice divisions:

Big 10 West:
Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska
Big 10 Central
Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Big 10 East:
Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Virginia Tech

What does this do for the Big 10? Well first off it gives them a more compact grouping of schools for each division. It helps Nebraska reemerge as a contender for the conference crown in the West, gives Missouri an annual shot, and allows for Iowa and Minnesota's recent strengthening to continue.

In the Central you have three strong schools Michigan, Michigan State, and Wisconsin.

In the East you have the same with Ohio State, Penn State and Virginia Tech

Basketball consist of 22 conference games: 10 in your division (home & home) and 1 game each against the other 12.



The ACC is much more regionally aligned now:
ACC North:
Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Temple
ACC Central:
Duke, Louisville, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, West Virginia,
ACC South:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, N.C. State, Wake Forest

What does this do for the ACC?

It gives Notre Dame a game in Ohio every other year which helps them recruit that state more heavily. It allows Syracuse to reemerge as a contender and gives the ACC a divisional representative in the Conference Semis that draws in the Northeast viewers every year.

In the Central it reunites Pitt and WVU and keeps UNC with traditional rivals Virginia and Duke. With the reemergence of UNC in football, and with Pitt's recent improvement, and the presence of WVU this region finally has some football gravitas.

In the South you group the teams that really want to play one another and you give them Wake to help them out.

For Basketball see the Big 10 schedule. With a wild card for the football semis it is conceivable that the wild card would come from the South most years which is also good for ratings in that a South school would be pitted most likely against both a North and Central school each year in the semis permitting two strong candidates to still emerge from the South if not challenged from the other two divisions.

With the SEC you include Texas in a division that has everyone they want to keep without having A&M forced to be in that division.

SEC West:
Arkansas, Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas

SEC Central:
Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt

SEC East:
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee

Out West, as I said, Texas keeps essentially it's chief rivals and adds Arkansas back to that time honored rivals list. Baylor finds a home as part of the payoff.

In the Central (the Old SEC West) Vanderbilt replaces Auburn lessening the harsh strength of the division while building up the East a little bit.

In the East Auburn finally gets its rivals back and helps to strengthen that division.

Basketball schedule is the same as that of the Big 10 and ACC.

Football schedules are as follows for all conferences:

5 divisional games, 2 permanent rival (1 from each of the other two divisions), and two rotating from each of the other two divisions.

That's right there are 11 conference games, one OOC game against another P4 school for a total of 12 P4 games.

Now Spring games are replaced by a preseason game either 1 or 2 weeks before the open of the season against a FCS, or G5 school. That gives every P4 school 7 home games to sell.

The PAC can stay at 12 or go to 16 with Texas Tech, T.C.U., Houston and B.Y.U. (who caves into demands to get in).
(This post was last modified: 12-10-2015 08:02 PM by JRsec.)
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