(08-03-2015 05:45 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 10:01 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 03:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 02:27 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I don't believe that ESPN or the SEC have any true interest in raiding the ACC. The N.C. State & Virginia Tech rumors were centered around a move that ESPN wanted to make in 2010 with the ACC. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and an unnamed school at that time were to move to the ACC (unnamed school was Notre Dame). The ACC would move to 16 (they already knew of Maryland's plans) and the SEC would give up long term objectives to the West (Texas and Oklahoma) and would gain markets that would increase ESPN & the SEC's value in our already planned network. When we invited Florida State they were independents.

Oklahoma would be our prime objective if we were to move to 16. With Oklahoma you can cross T.C.U. off the list as the Sooners deliver DFW as well as the Frogs do. Texas Tech is too far away. Maybe Baylor if not Texas, or Kansas (doesn't really fit), or West Virginia (but I doubt it).

But don't bother to use the term grandiose here. Nobody has the reputation for self delusion like the old core schools of the ACC. You're currently fifth in footprint saturation, meaning you hardly dominate any of your states other than Virginia and North Carolina. You are second in Florida, Kentucky, Georgia, and South Carolina. You are not the sports leader in Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, or New York professional sports and other college programs squeeze you out depending upon the state. And if U.N.C. screws up landing Texas you'll languish in 4th or 5th place for the rest of your existence.

JR, you are dead wrong about South Carolina and we will be #1 in Kentucky within 5 years if not sooner.

Back it up with data then because there isn't any that supports your position. Louisville is strong but will never pass UK. Only adding major football brands to the ACC will preserve Louisville's upward trajectory.

Well, if you are talking sports leader as in post season play, while I can't speak for anyone else, UofL defeats uk if you look at Football(major/minor bowls), men's basketball(final fours, NC), baseball(Omaha), women's basketball(final fours and NC game appearances), men's soccer(elite 8, finals) over the past 6 years.
We at least have an upward trajectory.

Until the city of Louisville is looked upon more favorably throughout the rest of the state I'm not sure if U of L fans will ever outnumber UK fans. That said, U of L has used its football success to grow its fan base throughout the state.

I don't think anyone in their right mind can argue that UK has better athletic programs than UofL. With a fraction of the income, UofL has passed UK on the fields/courts.

From a viewership standpoint, UofL will most likely never be on par with UK. In the city UofL enjoys a slight majority. If you venture more than 20-30 miles outside of Jefferson County the number moves to 80ish percent UK. If you get out into the state you are hard pressed to find a handful of UofL fans in entire counties.

I grew up in Nelson County just 35 minutes from UofL. Of the 1500 kids in our high school, there were maybe 30 Louisville fans. You see more of them today but we are still greatly outnumbered. I find it highly unlikely that out fanbase ever pupils even with UK.

We will just have to settle for stomping them in the win loss column.