(08-02-2015 03:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 02:27 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 11:45 AM)WoadBlue Wrote:  

(07-25-2015 09:08 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  That's only 18 though if we take 4. Or do you mean we should leave a couple of spots open in case solid programs come calling?

Personally, I would rather go to 16 or to 20. I have a feeling that 18 is going to be a very awkward number to work with in the long haul. I was in favor of going to 16 last time rather than 14 for that very reason.

You SEC people should stop yourselves from becoming as insufferably grandiose as the midwestern Big Ten trash.

The Big 12 obviously cannot be truly stable. It lost its 3rd, 4th, and 5th largest football fan bases. It lost its 2nd largest state. A&M in the SEC means that the Big 12 never again can control its largest state.

The SEC is going to be ready to scoop up OU the second OU is ready to leave. # 16 could be almost anybody and work the SEC. If it were my decision, I'd take Texas Tech, Baylor, or TCU with OU to double the SEC exposure in TX.

I don't believe that ESPN or the SEC have any true interest in raiding the ACC. The N.C. State & Virginia Tech rumors were centered around a move that ESPN wanted to make in 2010 with the ACC. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and an unnamed school at that time were to move to the ACC (unnamed school was Notre Dame). The ACC would move to 16 (they already knew of Maryland's plans) and the SEC would give up long term objectives to the West (Texas and Oklahoma) and would gain markets that would increase ESPN & the SEC's value in our already planned network. When we invited Florida State they were independents.

Oklahoma would be our prime objective if we were to move to 16. With Oklahoma you can cross T.C.U. off the list as the Sooners deliver DFW as well as the Frogs do. Texas Tech is too far away. Maybe Baylor if not Texas, or Kansas (doesn't really fit), or West Virginia (but I doubt it).

But don't bother to use the term grandiose here. Nobody has the reputation for self delusion like the old core schools of the ACC. You're currently fifth in footprint saturation, meaning you hardly dominate any of your states other than Virginia and North Carolina. You are second in Florida, Kentucky, Georgia, and South Carolina. You are not the sports leader in Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, or New York professional sports and other college programs squeeze you out depending upon the state. And if U.N.C. screws up landing Texas you'll languish in 4th or 5th place for the rest of your existence.

JR, you are dead wrong about South Carolina and we will be #1 in Kentucky within 5 years if not sooner.

Back it up with data then because there isn't any that supports your position. Louisville is strong but will never pass UK. Only adding major football brands to the ACC will preserve Louisville's upward trajectory.

Well, if you are talking sports leader as in post season play, while I can't speak for anyone else, UofL defeats uk if you look at Football(major/minor bowls), men's basketball(final fours, NC), baseball(Omaha), women's basketball(final fours and NC game appearances), men's soccer(elite 8, finals) over the past 6 years.
We at least have an upward trajectory.