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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(12-14-2014 02:38 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 08:55 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 08:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 12:15 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  
(12-11-2014 01:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  #4 The Power broker issue is not as much a problem for Oklahoma as Texas. If the Sooners get a chance to leave they will likely take it. Texas will be left with nobody that their alums want to see them play. That's why they would leave. Remember Oklahoma gets around 7 million a year for T3, Texas gets 15. The SECN will pay out over 20. The Big 10 network over 25. Oklahoma has a lot of reason to leave. The question is do they want to be an outlier in the Big 10, or part of their old rivals in the SEC West? We'll see.

How soon is this $20M to $25M for the B1GN and SECN share supposed to happen? That is like 3 times more than what the B1GN last paid out (I think it was around $8M). I have not seen any realistic estimates that these networks would pay out that much anytime in the near future. Are there any links with numbers and how they were figured (nothing from Clay Travis please)? This seems extremely unlikely. However, if it is true the SEC and B1G will be able to take any team they want from the B12 and ACC, and perhaps the PAC depending on the PACN payout, because that is as much or more than those conferences are paying out as a conference for their national deals or there will be mergers between the weaker conferences to create networks and line-ups to get similar payouts.

I'm sure that Oklahoma would like to leave, even without Texas. But where can they go?
We have already seen that the PAC won't take them without Texas, and I know that the ACC won't take them even with Texas. That leaves the B1G or the SEC. Between those two, the Sooners had better be making goo-goo eyes to the southeast.

The Sooners would rather go to the Big Ten. Even Missouri wanted The Big Ten over the SEC.
I am not so sure about your last statement H1. I doubt that Missouri even thought the SEC would give them a second look. I sure didn't see it coming. I realize the academic potential of joining the B1G though. I think our on field performance would have suffered much more as a member of the B1G,than as a Big XII school... like ten times worse than Nebraska is experiencing now. Could not have recruited the South, would probably lose the Texas pipeline, and wouldn't have been able to compete for the Northern kids against the established schools. The same will happen to Oklahoma if they make a move to the B1G. OU will fare much better in the SEC. Of course everything changes if the Longhorns make a move to the B1G. Would probably even help Nebraska. JMHO.04-cheers

I am not saying everyone connected to Missouri would rather have been in the Big Ten back then but it was pretty clear that your leadership wanted it pretty badly. Who do you think got your Governor all fired up about it?

I disagree about Oklahoma. Norman is two and a half hours drive time from DFW. It is a false argument that you are buying into. They will be fine wherever they go. Nebraska's recruiting was already going down hill before they ever left the Big 12 and that is why any attempt to claim that Oklahoma would lose all it's recruiting is just silly and is simply false logic. Any kind of statement like that which is based upon a false premise is therefore false as well.

Nebraska's distance from Texas is an issue for them in terms of recruiting Texas. Nebraska at it's prime was recruiting the entire country, not just Texas. Oklahoma is a much different situation. I realize you guys don't like the Big Ten and that doesn't bother me one bit but do try to keep to the facts in these debates with me. The Oklahoma situation is far from being the same as the Nebraska situation was.
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